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this is Ross coultart and you are

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listening to that UFO podcast

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hi everyone and welcome back to that uf4

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podcast my name is Andy and joining me

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for his third appearance on the podcast

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I have a UFO researcher investigator and

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author of many books connected to the

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UFO topic here to discuss his latest

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work UFO Sky Pilots or Pilots of peace

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and Oneness Mr Grant Cameron Grant

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welcome back to the podcast thank you

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Andy thank you for your interest in my

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book

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yeah it's been excellent and the copy of

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the book if you're watching on YouTube

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is just here links to buy the book will

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be in the description as well I've been

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posting about it online but if you want

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to hear more about Grant's background in

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history in the UFO topic you can dive

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into some interviews that we've done in

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the past and The Archives of the podcast

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for this one we're going to dive

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straight into the book and for this book

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Grant you have chosen a niche within a

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niche the UFO subject is Niche within

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itself but this is about the idea that

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human beings have flown flying sources

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what took you in that direction for this

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particular book

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yeah it was like everything else in my

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UFO career that I

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um it happened to me I didn't intend to

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have it I'd never heard of such a thing

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in my life basically what happened is I

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had a a download experience in 2012

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watching Colin Andrews give a lecture on

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crop circles in uh Laughlin Nevada and I

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wasn't interested in the in the lecture

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crop circles or anything and I had this

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download experience that basically said

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everything that you not only is

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everything that you believe wrong uh not

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only is everything you believe wrong

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it's exactly the opposite of what you

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think it is and they they basically said

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you know that the fact that uh

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Consciousness was primary and I it came

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with absolute certainty so I had sort of

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left the field of

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you know presidents and stuff took a lot

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of flack for going into the woo subject

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of Consciousness and stuff and um

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basically what happened after that there

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was a woman by the name of Stacy who

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runs the mufon group in Phoenix that's a

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very large group in Phoenix Arizona and

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she said to me a year later I'm in back

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in Phoenix I'm giving a lecture and she

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said are you still going to talk to Pam

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Dupuis and I and I said well I guess so

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we're in a group of people who haven't

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they're having a gut together or

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something I said yeah I guess so and

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then I I thought I must have agreed to

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talk to this woman I didn't know what

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was going to happen he says that's good

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she's coming to the house on Monday and

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you can talk to her and so Pam comes to

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the the house on Monday with her partner

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and they come in and she starts telling

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all sorts of stories that I've heard for

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40 years I mean I'm removing it for the

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government and uh you know I was

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abducted as a child and I've had these

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experiences and it went on and on and I

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sort of like you know you've heard all

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this stuff and I was listening to her

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sitting across the kitchen table and

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then she dropped it on me she said oh

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and I was trying the craft last night

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and I went what you're flying the craft

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and she said yeah like with a straight

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face and I'm thinking to myself all I

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could think in my mind was Saudi Arabian

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women at that time were not allowed to

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drive a car unless there was a man

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inside the car and I'm thinking to

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myself they let you fly the car why

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would they let you fly the craft and I

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would say I said they let you fly crap

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yeah and I said you were flying the

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craft she said yeah and I was ready to

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throw out of the house I couldn't

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believe what I was hearing I just

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thought it was the craziest idea I've

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ever heard in my life and I said well

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how do you fly craft and she said oh you

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do it with your mind and then suddenly I

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realized why they set me up with this

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woman to talk to her because I had been

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into this Consciousness thing and they

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wanted me to know this thing there's

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this Consciousness interface and that's

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the key to this book is once I had Pam

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tell me this story I'd never heard it

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before never anybody told me anything

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was so bizarre in my life and and the

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thing is it's bizarre like if you're

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going to make up a story about being on

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a craft the last thing you're going to

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say is oh I was flying the craft I mean

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people are going yeah sure you were

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because I mean the story is bad enough

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already you're on a craft let alone

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you're flying the thing and so then

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these people started showing up and I

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ran into a another person who's slowed

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the craft like Chris Bledsoe and now he

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was talking all of a sudden he said you

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know I flew the craft and I say you flew

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the craft and he said yeah and I said

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you flew the craft too yeah I said hang

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on stop I want to interview you I want

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to do a Skype interview don't tell me

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anything more I'm gonna do a Skype

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interview and I want you to describe and

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he described this very basic story that

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everybody tells it all these 36 people

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that I track down

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or came to me most of them came to me

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all with the same thing they go into the

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craft and and they have all the other

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bizarre things they describe but the the

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they say go under the craft and a lot of

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them will say they're on the craft and

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they don't know what to do they're

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standing in the middle of this craft and

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uh the the they hear a voice from behind

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them and they they get the impression

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that there's either two beings behind

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them or there's two human beings behind

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them they really don't know but there's

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a voice behind them and says

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put your hand on a panel put your hand

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on the panel or you know what to do just

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go ahead and do it so this one guy his

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name was uh David out of uh Los Angeles

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he was a retired US Air Force Colonel he

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was telling me the story he came into a

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meeting they were having a after you

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know the people go to the restaurant

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after you lecture and he hadn't been at

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my lecture I'd been talking replying the

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craft and he came into the room into the

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restaurant and they said David David you

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gotta talk to Grant and decide tell me

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your story and and then uh he I I just

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waited and I said you know Hi and then

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they said tell me your tell me to do the

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craft and then he says to me says oh I I

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think it was a dream and I said

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everybody thinks it's a dream you flew

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the craft and he said yeah and then they

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said David David tell me you're a pilot

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and that's why I said oh my father's a

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pilot my son's a pilot I said would have

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he flown and he starts naming off these

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Jets and then he says f-16s I said you

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flew f-16s and he said yeah he said my

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retired USM first Colonel I said tell me

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sit down tell me your dream it's like

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it's not and they tell this story he's

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standing in the middle of The Craft

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here's his voices you know what to do

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just go ahead and do it almost like

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these people have done it before and

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they've forgotten and then they they go

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and so there's this panel there and he

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goes and puts his hand on this Pat on

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this panel and he said suddenly he

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becomes one with the craft which is

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important this is Oneness principle that

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the the beings are always trying to get

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across everything is one everything's

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connected you become one with the craft

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you and the craft are the same thing and

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whatever you think is what the craft

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does and wherever you want to go the

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craft will take you there and will take

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you instantaneously to wherever you want

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to go almost like uh like a uh say a

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remote viewing where the person is

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instantly at the Target wherever you say

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here's the target the number you're in

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at the Target so he he said I'm flying

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I'm flying the craft he says and then

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it's flying along he said just like an

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F-16 and like suction cups on an F-16

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whatever that means I I never track that

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down but he said and then he said I'm

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flying and then he said I take one hand

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off the off the panel and I'm waiting

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for the Flying Saucer to stall and and

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I'm gonna put my hand back down quickly

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and he said he took his hand up and he

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said he kept he kept flying the craft

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and they took the other one out but he

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goes oh it's got about an inch off the

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off the panel and he was ready to put it

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back down and he said he got his hands

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off and he said I'm I got my hands there

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and he said I'm flying the craft and

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it's just it's in it's my mind is doing

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it and I'm not touching anything and

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then

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the people will describe that they can

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go wherever they want and that the

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beings will say to them this important

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thing like the story of Ron Johnson

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who's um uh on experiencers actually

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publishing his book of 50 years of

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experiences uh when he flew it he was

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sitting in this he they got him to sit

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in his chair put his fingers in these

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the ends of this chair they had these

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holes in the ends of the chair and he

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said the chair was like was built for

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him he's actually fit his body so

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perfectly and he sat down in the chair

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and then they said it's within you

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imagine where you want to go it's within

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you and that's that's critically

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important because people were told us

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it's within you almost like the Sufi

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expression you see yourself as a puny

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form when within you the entire universe

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is unfolded this whole idea that you're

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you're gonna go and Ron Johnson says it

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was one second and he said he looked out

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the window of this craft and there was

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the Milky Way off in the distance which

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would have been 50 to 70 000 light years

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in one second so if that's true there's

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some problem with with our ideas of time

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and space and when free did the survey

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of three thousand experiencers I always

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say the experiences of the people we

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should be talking to they they 14 of the

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people who answer the question during

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that survey said they'd flown the craft

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and I talked to the people some of the

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one of the guys that was doing the

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survey and I said well why don't we put

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out another survey to these 14 of people

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and find out what their how to fly Croft

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and then he said well you know people

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have all sorts of experiences on board

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the craft and I said yeah that may be

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true but when they start flying the

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craft do anything we should be talking

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to these people because everybody's into

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propulsion how do they get here time and

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space and all this kind of stuff and the

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idea is there's an anomaly there's an

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anomaly that that is wrong almost like

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Gary Nolan will talk about the five

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percent that falls outside the bell

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curve that's what he's interested in

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that's where the Nobel Prize is going to

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be there's an anomaly because if so if

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the materialistic Paradigm is right this

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should not be happening there's no way

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it should be happening and there's

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something wrong so you look at the

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anomaly and you start talking to these

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people and what you get is this idea

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that this this idea of Oneness uh the

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interacting with the craft and then you

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get these it starts to explain some of

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the things that experiences will talk

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about when they say I knew that night I

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was going to be abducted or I knew the

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craft was around people say I know it's

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here and then it'll appear and John

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Alexander was one example when he was

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with Chris Bledsoe John Alexander was

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very famous Colonel and U.S army who got

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into paranormal phenomena he was

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studying Chris Bledsoe and they were

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standing uh above where Chris had been

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abducted seeing uh leaning against the

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car and suddenly Chris said John John

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they're here and John looks around he

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says why do you know they're here I just

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know I I know they're here John I know

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they're here and all of a sudden this

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dude this thing appears above John and

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he goes flying off into the distance and

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John said it was one of the most amazing

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things he'd ever seen in his life and it

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was this connection that it's a

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vibration thing which is my my

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conclusion that it would appear that

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everything is sort of vibrating so they

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can come in and if you've touched the

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craft if you've been one with the craft

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then you've vibrated with the craft so

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when the craft is in the area you can

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feel that vibration they come in they

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lower their vibration it materializes

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and then it dematerializes and it's this

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idea of Consciousness the Consciousness

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creates matter and that was something

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that was told to me in this experience I

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had in 2017 when I had a download

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experience was if the world is made out

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of matter that's one world with certain

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rules and regulations but if it's made

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out of Consciousness that's a completely

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different world and that's the thing

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we're missing that the majority the

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majority of early Quantum physicists

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whether it was Bohr whether it was plank

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whether it was Schrodinger uh Von Newman

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all these guys were realists they all

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believe that Consciousness was primary

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and that matter was secondary and that's

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we've got to realize is that matter

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matter is secondary to Consciousness and

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that's how the these beings simply

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understand this concept that there

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there's everything's made out of

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Consciousness and they can manipulate

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stuff because it's all made out of

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Consciousness and they can do it so uh

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once I started getting Gathering these

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people I realized that all these people

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were telling exactly the same story

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and I decided that I had to put this in

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a book and now it's it's sort of useless

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so if now something comes up and says oh

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they flew the craft it really doesn't

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mean anything because my book is out so

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now people know this is there but I can

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guarantee you nobody was talking about

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this before the same as before 2012 in

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the UFO Community nobody was talking

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about Consciousness it's almost like

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these ideas are sort of fed to us the

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Consciousness Rises and then everybody

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starts talking about it and it's that's

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how the thing is going to unravel the

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the disclosure it's piece by piece

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they're putting in these these pieces of

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the story to us and giving them to us

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because I don't think it was I don't

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think it was an accident that I suddenly

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got three dozen people all coming to me

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and telling me this bizarre story about

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uh flying to craft and just bizarre some

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of these other bizarre things that I've

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described in the book is this idea that

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a lot of experiencers will say when I

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went into the craft I suddenly realized

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it's like the size of a football stadium

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inside the craft and then to look

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outside the craft and it's like 30 feet

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and they look inside it's the size of a

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football stadium and that the beings

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tell them we can make the craft as big

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as we want and Pam Dupuis the first

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woman that that I interviewed that told

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me this original story back in 2013 said

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the the the intelligence some of these

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crafts are as big as solar systems they

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can make it as big as they want so you

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can be a you can be walking down the

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street Andy and there's a rock on the

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side of the the road and there's a

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civilization inside that rock this is

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this whole idea that they can make it as

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big as they want and the other thing

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they described which was very very

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bizarre and a lot of them described it

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was something that's described in obes

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which sort of shows that the UFO

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experience overlaps the near-death

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experiences and obes in that they would

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describe the fact that when they touched

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like the guy from Liverpool said there's

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a panel on the wall I want to put my

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hand on the panel on the wall I could

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see under I could see in 360 Degrees

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which is another story you're not going

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to make up like who's going to make up

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that story I never heard that before

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either like you can see in 360 Degrees

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come on give your head a shake give this

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that's impossible this is crazy story so

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people are telling this crazy story but

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they're all telling the same crazy story

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and then now we've got to analyze it

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what does this mean and it's this key

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Consciousness Connection that these

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people are displaying there is a

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definite Consciousness Connection to how

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the craft gets here how it is

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manipulated and the fact that AI is

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possible that crafts this is an AI craft

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it's it's possible because they use

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biological material and I think I

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described it in the book there's

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actually been some experiments done with

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biological material

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yeah just just before we get there

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because I am going to get to that

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there's a lot to unpack there but I just

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want to ask you mentioned these 36

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individuals that make up the the cases

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in the book and I want to know and some

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of the listeners Sean and Melanie had

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similar questions as well so thanks for

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sending those in were there any patterns

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that you saw in those individuals

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genetically personality wise are they

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creatives or anything that you saw

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within those 36 people that was a common

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trait okay well they're all experiencers

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so they're all telling this other story

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this is just a Side Story to the fact

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that they were abducted and and they

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were on the table and this sort of stuff

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that would be the one a lot of women uh

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that that's one thing I did pick up was

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a lot of women and

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um if you take it took a look at the

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experiences it's the idea they're

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talking you're talking about creativity

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uh I hadn't stopped that in previous

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books was this idea that uh John Lear

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who did the 17 alien implants when he

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was asked what's common between all

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these experiences he said they're all

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right brain creative people and there's

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tons of them in Hollywood and so there

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would be this idea that you know that

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they're creative people like Chris Butz

449
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was very creative artistic stuff like

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that you're gonna get those kind of

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patterns but it's the the the idea that

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they're going across the Spectrum in in

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some ways like I had a 747 United

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Airlines policy uh The Fighter Jet Pilot

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uh Chris bledso has this commercial

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license

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um then you get these um just ordinary

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uh people who are Housewives or we had

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the one case with uh multiple Witnesses

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almost like they're giving us different

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types of cases because then we had the

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one gene as their name she and another

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woman were taken they were in a tent and

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there was three women in the tent and

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two of the women were taken and they

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were allowed to fly the craft same thing

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look in your mind and and wherever you

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think is is what it Where You're Gonna

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Go uh and The Third Woman was was in the

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tent she was Furious when these women

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came back that they didn't wake her up

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but they said we didn't have a 10 chance

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to wake up we were suddenly boom we were

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in the craft we had no chance to wake

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you up and take you along but uh I think

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it's it's it's it's going to be an

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experiencer thing where I think they're

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showing us things that's what I think

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they're doing because for example Ron

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Johnson was told that his job was to I

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think we had two of these where their

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job was to fly people to another planet

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and this is almost like this this uh a

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lot of experiences get this uh idea that

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the end of world is coming and they're

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going to take us off almost like the the

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song after the Gold Rush when the gold

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is gone the silver seeds are going to

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come and take the chosen ones to another

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planet it it's that kind of idea and so

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he had he only remembers one case of

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actually flying the craft and he's got

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very serious heart condition he I mean

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he's got you know limited time to live

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so it doesn't appear that that's true

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that that's his job was to uh to fly the

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crafts I think they're showing us things

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they're they're giving it almost even

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maybe the fact that they're putting it

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to me they want this story out because

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that's what you'll hear from a lot of

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experiencers I run across it all the

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time because I have the Publishing

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Company it's all connected where I help

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experiencers try to get their story out

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I always say to them have you written

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this up have you told you're written the

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story I think they want you to write

509
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this story and I'll say have do you

510
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think they want you to write a book yeah

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yeah they want me I don't know how to

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write a book yeah they want me to write

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a book and everybody gets the same thing

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so what I do is I help these people

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publish their book I really don't take

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any money except for if somebody has to

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edit it or do a cover or something like

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that I said I I show them you can edit

519
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you can get one book for yourself for

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your kids record this story that's what

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I think they're doing with these with

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these they want this idea of

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Consciousness put across and they're

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doing it through this bizarre story and

525
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even maybe the fact that they're

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bringing it to me because I've had lots

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of people say that they wanted me I've

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had now four I'm going to write a book

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about it I've had four people who've

530
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come to me experiencers and say we've

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got a message from you from the aliens

532
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and I say really there was one in

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Britain with the beings oh they they

534
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want an interview they want you to

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interview them and it's like this

536
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bizarre thing where I've never had the

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experience myself but I've had

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experiences come to me and say and then

539
00:17:24,829 --> 00:17:23,160
I'll say so what does alien want to know

540
00:17:26,750 --> 00:17:24,839
what does it want to tell you and it's

541
00:17:28,429 --> 00:17:26,760
it's almost like I'm sort of a messenger

542
00:17:30,049 --> 00:17:28,439
that I've been picked to do this I've

543
00:17:32,030 --> 00:17:30,059
even got another book from New Zealand

544
00:17:33,830 --> 00:17:32,040
that I'm now going to release that that

545
00:17:35,810 --> 00:17:33,840
has been given to me that they want out

546
00:17:38,570 --> 00:17:35,820
and it's a book written out of a from a

547
00:17:41,450 --> 00:17:38,580
guy out of New Zealand so I the pattern

548
00:17:44,150 --> 00:17:41,460
is not genetic although I think the the

549
00:17:46,610 --> 00:17:44,160
gene thing does play a big part in this

550
00:17:49,010 --> 00:17:46,620
thing but it's I think it's a bigger

551
00:17:51,169 --> 00:17:49,020
part than people understand because I'm

552
00:17:54,590 --> 00:17:51,179
actually trying to run an experiment

553
00:17:57,650 --> 00:17:54,600
um whether the consciousness of a person

554
00:17:59,930 --> 00:17:57,660
the DNA of a of a person Channel will

555
00:18:01,610 --> 00:17:59,940
change I believe it will if a person is

556
00:18:04,130 --> 00:18:01,620
trans channeling I believe the conscious

557
00:18:06,950 --> 00:18:04,140
the conscious DNA will change it'll be

558
00:18:09,049 --> 00:18:06,960
different so uh DNA does play a big part

559
00:18:11,270 --> 00:18:09,059
I think that's where the the information

560
00:18:13,909 --> 00:18:11,280
is stored that's moved

561
00:18:15,830 --> 00:18:13,919
um you know in this present Lifetime and

562
00:18:18,590 --> 00:18:15,840
then it's moved to another life and and

563
00:18:20,690 --> 00:18:18,600
this sort of thing so but no pattern in

564
00:18:22,130 --> 00:18:20,700
terms of the they're all this or they're

565
00:18:24,470 --> 00:18:22,140
all that I was surprised how many women

566
00:18:26,210 --> 00:18:24,480
there were just ordinary women who had

567
00:18:27,830 --> 00:18:26,220
this experience which is the whole idea

568
00:18:30,049 --> 00:18:27,840
of the original woman is like you're

569
00:18:31,130 --> 00:18:30,059
like a 75 year old lady what if it

570
00:18:32,990 --> 00:18:31,140
doesn't let you fly the craft come on

571
00:18:35,390 --> 00:18:33,000
this is crazy stuff I couldn't believe

572
00:18:36,830 --> 00:18:35,400
she was telling me the story had they

573
00:18:38,450 --> 00:18:36,840
all practice remote viewing you

574
00:18:40,310 --> 00:18:38,460
mentioned a few and I know a few of the

575
00:18:41,750 --> 00:18:40,320
names but some of the listeners also

576
00:18:43,850 --> 00:18:41,760
mentioned this were they all remote

577
00:18:45,409 --> 00:18:43,860
viewers

578
00:18:46,789 --> 00:18:45,419
um no this woman claimed to be doing

579
00:18:48,950 --> 00:18:46,799
actually doing it for the US government

580
00:18:50,870 --> 00:18:48,960
that they had hired her and she was

581
00:18:52,610 --> 00:18:50,880
doing it a lot like a lot of experiences

582
00:18:54,230 --> 00:18:52,620
have that like you have this the pattern

583
00:18:55,970 --> 00:18:54,240
this is where I say the free survey is

584
00:18:58,850 --> 00:18:55,980
so important is that if you look at the

585
00:19:01,310 --> 00:18:58,860
free survey you know uh I asked for

586
00:19:02,450 --> 00:19:01,320
example I asked um

587
00:19:06,230 --> 00:19:02,460
um

588
00:19:07,909 --> 00:19:06,240
uh a person who does uh regressions out

589
00:19:10,250 --> 00:19:07,919
of Los Angeles sorry I'm forgetting her

590
00:19:13,130 --> 00:19:10,260
name uh major woman and I asked her I

591
00:19:15,289 --> 00:19:13,140
said how many how many experiencers uh

592
00:19:18,890 --> 00:19:15,299
have paranormal stuff happen to them and

593
00:19:20,690 --> 00:19:18,900
she goes uh like uh 99 so all

594
00:19:22,730 --> 00:19:20,700
experiencers have this thing where

595
00:19:24,350 --> 00:19:22,740
they're they're they seem to be psychic

596
00:19:26,210 --> 00:19:24,360
or suddenly they're having underbody

597
00:19:28,549 --> 00:19:26,220
experiences 80 say they've had a body

598
00:19:30,830 --> 00:19:28,559
experiences and and they you have these

599
00:19:32,330 --> 00:19:30,840
crossovers with experiencers with

600
00:19:34,130 --> 00:19:32,340
near-death experiences which I always

601
00:19:35,750 --> 00:19:34,140
point out that it's going to be the same

602
00:19:37,250 --> 00:19:35,760
thing it's it's it's maybe a different

603
00:19:40,250 --> 00:19:37,260
vibration but it's the same sort of

604
00:19:41,990 --> 00:19:40,260
principle that 40 of all experiences say

605
00:19:43,970 --> 00:19:42,000
at one point during their experience

606
00:19:45,470 --> 00:19:43,980
they knew the answer to everything in

607
00:19:47,029 --> 00:19:45,480
the universe and when they came back

608
00:19:49,190 --> 00:19:47,039
they forgot it they just remembered that

609
00:19:51,529 --> 00:19:49,200
they knew everything at one point and 31

610
00:19:52,850 --> 00:19:51,539
of all near-death experiencers will say

611
00:19:54,289 --> 00:19:52,860
at one point during their experience

612
00:19:55,909 --> 00:19:54,299
they knew the answer to everything in

613
00:19:57,350 --> 00:19:55,919
the universe and that's critically

614
00:19:59,210 --> 00:19:57,360
important because it shows the crossover

615
00:20:01,130 --> 00:19:59,220
and it also shows the fact that

616
00:20:02,990 --> 00:20:01,140
everything is in the field so if you can

617
00:20:04,850 --> 00:20:03,000
get into the field by whatever method

618
00:20:06,650 --> 00:20:04,860
you're using all the answers are there

619
00:20:09,950 --> 00:20:06,660
and that's the whole idea I wrote a book

620
00:20:11,810 --> 00:20:09,960
called uh it's it's for in inspired the

621
00:20:15,169 --> 00:20:11,820
Paranormal world of creativity where I

622
00:20:17,090 --> 00:20:15,179
look at musicians and artists and and uh

623
00:20:19,250 --> 00:20:17,100
UFO experiencers and people doing

624
00:20:20,750 --> 00:20:19,260
psychedelics and this this whole idea of

625
00:20:22,850 --> 00:20:20,760
where do Creations come from where did

626
00:20:24,289 --> 00:20:22,860
Nobel prizes and you see a lot of Nobel

627
00:20:26,750 --> 00:20:24,299
prizes come from this sort of download

628
00:20:29,630 --> 00:20:26,760
experience that I had so

629
00:20:33,590 --> 00:20:29,640
um it's so important this Consciousness

630
00:20:34,909 --> 00:20:33,600
uh thing to confirm this fact that this

631
00:20:36,470 --> 00:20:34,919
Consciousness thing is being used

632
00:20:38,150 --> 00:20:36,480
because people still always want to go

633
00:20:39,590 --> 00:20:38,160
with the materialistic thing oh we're

634
00:20:41,090 --> 00:20:39,600
going to get these uh we're gonna get a

635
00:20:42,470 --> 00:20:41,100
ship and we're gonna take a piece of

636
00:20:43,610 --> 00:20:42,480
metal and we're gonna back engineer it

637
00:20:45,169 --> 00:20:43,620
and it's like no you're not going to do

638
00:20:46,310 --> 00:20:45,179
any of that kind of stuff or if you take

639
00:20:48,110 --> 00:20:46,320
the Wilson leak I don't know if you've

640
00:20:49,669 --> 00:20:48,120
done any shows on the Wilson leak

641
00:20:52,130 --> 00:20:49,679
document at the very end of the Wilson

642
00:20:53,210 --> 00:20:52,140
leak document what what stood out to me

643
00:20:54,890 --> 00:20:53,220
because I didn't read the document I

644
00:20:56,270 --> 00:20:54,900
read the first page I read the last page

645
00:20:58,070 --> 00:20:56,280
or the second last page or whatever

646
00:21:01,029 --> 00:20:58,080
because someone pointed out to me I read

647
00:21:04,070 --> 00:21:01,039
it and it says we have we he Wilson

648
00:21:06,529 --> 00:21:04,080
Admiral Wilson was told we have a craft

649
00:21:08,690 --> 00:21:06,539
and we think it'll fly as soon as I

650
00:21:10,789 --> 00:21:08,700
heard that I said oh so the story is

651
00:21:12,950 --> 00:21:10,799
true the rumor was they've got a craft

652
00:21:14,690 --> 00:21:12,960
and they can't turn it on because it's

653
00:21:17,750 --> 00:21:14,700
like your cell phone it needs your

654
00:21:19,370 --> 00:21:17,760
fingerprint it needs your face print it

655
00:21:20,810 --> 00:21:19,380
needs something and what do you need

656
00:21:22,850 --> 00:21:20,820
here is you need a Consciousness

657
00:21:24,350 --> 00:21:22,860
interface you need Consciousness to

658
00:21:25,730 --> 00:21:24,360
touch the craft to be coming with the

659
00:21:27,529 --> 00:21:25,740
craft and you need the right person

660
00:21:29,870 --> 00:21:27,539
because Melinda Leslie tells a story

661
00:21:31,850 --> 00:21:29,880
about the millabs where the millab

662
00:21:34,730 --> 00:21:31,860
people are taking and she said they are

663
00:21:36,289 --> 00:21:34,740
given pieces of equipment and they give

664
00:21:37,669 --> 00:21:36,299
them the piece of equipment and suddenly

665
00:21:39,529 --> 00:21:37,679
the equipment starts to operate and they

666
00:21:41,690 --> 00:21:39,539
go oh we got another one and that's what

667
00:21:43,430 --> 00:21:41,700
they do is the experiencer can make the

668
00:21:45,350 --> 00:21:43,440
UFO equipment that they've got the

669
00:21:46,970 --> 00:21:45,360
recovered Hardware work but nobody else

670
00:21:48,890 --> 00:21:46,980
can so if you're not an experience you

671
00:21:51,649 --> 00:21:48,900
can't work it or there's the story that

672
00:21:54,230 --> 00:21:51,659
that um Chris bledsoe's son tells on his

673
00:21:56,510 --> 00:21:54,240
podcast where Tim Taylor the guy from

674
00:21:58,730 --> 00:21:56,520
NASA the big shot from Nassau who's

675
00:22:00,950 --> 00:21:58,740
inside on the inside comes and he puts a

676
00:22:02,270 --> 00:22:00,960
piece of metal in Chris in in Ryan's

677
00:22:04,130 --> 00:22:02,280
hand he says what do you feel it right

678
00:22:06,409 --> 00:22:04,140
says nothing he puts a second piece of

679
00:22:08,450 --> 00:22:06,419
metal in his hand and he feels his his

680
00:22:10,370 --> 00:22:08,460
shock go up his arm he said that's good

681
00:22:13,070 --> 00:22:10,380
and then he goes and he does Chris bus

682
00:22:15,230 --> 00:22:13,080
or Junior and he does all the other the

683
00:22:16,610 --> 00:22:15,240
kids he does the wife he does and and

684
00:22:19,310 --> 00:22:16,620
then he does the girlfriends Chris

685
00:22:21,289 --> 00:22:19,320
butzel's uh Junior's girlfriend nothing

686
00:22:23,390 --> 00:22:21,299
happens to her and then he does Chris

687
00:22:25,909 --> 00:22:23,400
Bledsoe himself and he basically goes in

688
00:22:28,010 --> 00:22:25,919
like almost into shock he'd be very very

689
00:22:30,409 --> 00:22:28,020
affected and he starts to have this sort

690
00:22:33,710 --> 00:22:30,419
of a download and channeling and what

691
00:22:35,270 --> 00:22:33,720
Tim Taylor told uh Ryan is he said the

692
00:22:37,130 --> 00:22:35,280
fact that you got the shock proves that

693
00:22:40,070 --> 00:22:37,140
you've been face to face within with a

694
00:22:41,570 --> 00:22:40,080
with a an entity and so they know some

695
00:22:43,490 --> 00:22:41,580
of this stuff and they know it's it's

696
00:22:44,810 --> 00:22:43,500
that's the idea would be that he made

697
00:22:46,250 --> 00:22:44,820
Mill Labs if they're grabbing these

698
00:22:48,230 --> 00:22:46,260
people and they're trying to find who

699
00:22:50,390 --> 00:22:48,240
are they who's who's an experiencer

700
00:22:51,950 --> 00:22:50,400
who's not what are they being told but

701
00:22:52,970 --> 00:22:51,960
the experiencers can so when I saw at

702
00:22:54,409 --> 00:22:52,980
the end of the Wilson leaked document

703
00:22:56,029 --> 00:22:54,419
where they say we've got a craft and we

704
00:22:57,289 --> 00:22:56,039
think it'll fly it means they gotta

705
00:22:59,149 --> 00:22:57,299
craft and they can't fly it it's

706
00:23:00,649 --> 00:22:59,159
completely intact it's been given to

707
00:23:01,549 --> 00:23:00,659
them and they can't they can't turn it

708
00:23:03,590 --> 00:23:01,559
on

709
00:23:05,630 --> 00:23:03,600
let me ask Grant and I think a lot of

710
00:23:07,549 --> 00:23:05,640
people especially those who are maybe a

711
00:23:10,490 --> 00:23:07,559
little bit more skeptical would want to

712
00:23:14,510 --> 00:23:10,500
know why is any of these individuals

713
00:23:17,090 --> 00:23:14,520
being chosen to to fly a craft and what

714
00:23:18,470 --> 00:23:17,100
is the purpose of that personally I

715
00:23:20,090 --> 00:23:18,480
can't believe it's because they want

716
00:23:21,950 --> 00:23:20,100
them to go and write a book about it or

717
00:23:23,870 --> 00:23:21,960
or make a documentary or you know

718
00:23:26,570 --> 00:23:23,880
anything like that there must be a

719
00:23:29,870 --> 00:23:26,580
greater purpose to give someone that

720
00:23:32,090 --> 00:23:29,880
incredible exposure and experience and

721
00:23:34,549 --> 00:23:32,100
then if it was if it was to get a

722
00:23:36,409 --> 00:23:34,559
message out of there why not pick you

723
00:23:38,630 --> 00:23:36,419
know a major celebrity someone high up

724
00:23:40,430 --> 00:23:38,640
in the military a major politician and

725
00:23:43,010 --> 00:23:40,440
not to say they don't give them that

726
00:23:45,169 --> 00:23:43,020
opportunity and put that message out in

727
00:23:46,610 --> 00:23:45,179
a big way is there something maybe in

728
00:23:49,130 --> 00:23:46,620
between

729
00:23:51,529 --> 00:23:49,140
well they do put it out to to Major like

730
00:23:53,990 --> 00:23:51,539
I I wrote the book uh tuned in the

731
00:23:55,610 --> 00:23:54,000
Paranormal world of of Music where I

732
00:23:58,010 --> 00:23:55,620
look at how many musicians are

733
00:23:59,029 --> 00:23:58,020
experiencers it's unbelievable how many

734
00:24:01,070 --> 00:23:59,039
experience how many of them are

735
00:24:03,289 --> 00:24:01,080
experiencers and and how many of them

736
00:24:05,870 --> 00:24:03,299
sang the the song after the Gold Rush so

737
00:24:08,029 --> 00:24:05,880
they do go to these people but we have

738
00:24:09,770 --> 00:24:08,039
the idea and I brought this up like they

739
00:24:11,930 --> 00:24:09,780
have the idea that they were there they

740
00:24:13,730 --> 00:24:11,940
want this sort of out they want the the

741
00:24:15,950 --> 00:24:13,740
end and that's not what they want they

742
00:24:18,470 --> 00:24:15,960
want this gradual disclosure exposure

743
00:24:21,169 --> 00:24:18,480
exposure they're they're giving it piece

744
00:24:22,610 --> 00:24:21,179
by piece and moving us along along a

745
00:24:24,289 --> 00:24:22,620
trail where we're following the trail

746
00:24:25,190 --> 00:24:24,299
because if they wanted to land on the

747
00:24:27,649 --> 00:24:25,200
White House line they could do it

748
00:24:30,169 --> 00:24:27,659
anytime they wanted and it the idea is

749
00:24:32,870 --> 00:24:30,179
not for us to get to the end of the

750
00:24:34,190 --> 00:24:32,880
thing it's for us to learn and and so

751
00:24:35,870 --> 00:24:34,200
they I think they're doing this gradual

752
00:24:39,169 --> 00:24:35,880
thing is I called the theory of wow

753
00:24:40,730 --> 00:24:39,179
where I I point out where you have the

754
00:24:42,770 --> 00:24:40,740
Nimitz thing so you have to say okay

755
00:24:44,990 --> 00:24:42,780
they're at the Nimitz and this UFO is up

756
00:24:46,970 --> 00:24:45,000
at 80 000 feet and it drops down to sea

757
00:24:49,549 --> 00:24:46,980
level in seven eighths of a second so

758
00:24:51,409 --> 00:24:49,559
what is that UFO doing it's showing off

759
00:24:53,450 --> 00:24:51,419
it's just going oh all right tell this

760
00:24:54,950 --> 00:24:53,460
story or like when people will have UFO

761
00:24:56,690 --> 00:24:54,960
experiences I say well how long was it

762
00:24:58,430 --> 00:24:56,700
there and go I don't know two seconds

763
00:25:00,529 --> 00:24:58,440
three seconds I said what was it doing

764
00:25:01,850 --> 00:25:00,539
uh it wasn't doing anything do you think

765
00:25:04,310 --> 00:25:01,860
it wanted to see you I asked the

766
00:25:05,630 --> 00:25:04,320
question I go yeah I think so or I ask

767
00:25:06,890 --> 00:25:05,640
people do you think you have a mission

768
00:25:07,909 --> 00:25:06,900
experiencing do you think you have a

769
00:25:10,250 --> 00:25:07,919
mission

770
00:25:11,510 --> 00:25:10,260
yeah I kind of I think so but I really

771
00:25:12,770 --> 00:25:11,520
don't know what it is or they'll say

772
00:25:15,770 --> 00:25:12,780
yeah I got a mission and I know what it

773
00:25:17,090 --> 00:25:15,780
is and so I I see it as they're doing

774
00:25:20,090 --> 00:25:17,100
this thing where they're they're just

775
00:25:22,970 --> 00:25:20,100
doing crazy things to

776
00:25:24,890 --> 00:25:22,980
um to to get our attention to gradually

777
00:25:26,630 --> 00:25:24,900
move it out because the the world of

778
00:25:28,610 --> 00:25:26,640
UFOs is completely different now than it

779
00:25:30,110 --> 00:25:28,620
was in 1975. there was no talk about

780
00:25:32,210 --> 00:25:30,120
Consciousness there was no talk about

781
00:25:33,830 --> 00:25:32,220
channeling there was no talk about any

782
00:25:36,169 --> 00:25:33,840
of this kind of stuff we've moved a long

783
00:25:37,970 --> 00:25:36,179
way from 1975 and they're just moving us

784
00:25:40,010 --> 00:25:37,980
along this because some of the people on

785
00:25:41,750 --> 00:25:40,020
that were in the book will describe the

786
00:25:43,310 --> 00:25:41,760
fact that when they were children they

787
00:25:44,630 --> 00:25:43,320
were being trained and they were being

788
00:25:46,250 --> 00:25:44,640
trained they were sitting in a circle

789
00:25:48,049 --> 00:25:46,260
and they're sitting in a circle they

790
00:25:49,490 --> 00:25:48,059
could see the being from say the waist

791
00:25:51,950 --> 00:25:49,500
down they couldn't see from the waist up

792
00:25:54,110 --> 00:25:51,960
and that they they were being trained to

793
00:25:55,549 --> 00:25:54,120
levitate balls and they had these three

794
00:25:57,529 --> 00:25:55,559
different colored balls and the one was

795
00:25:59,510 --> 00:25:57,539
very hard to levitate the one was sort

796
00:26:00,710 --> 00:25:59,520
of not it was pretty hard and then the

797
00:26:02,390 --> 00:26:00,720
other one was very easy and they would

798
00:26:04,130 --> 00:26:02,400
these kids were levitating these balls

799
00:26:06,169 --> 00:26:04,140
so they're training these kids as they

800
00:26:09,409 --> 00:26:06,179
as they grow up and then they they they

801
00:26:12,230 --> 00:26:09,419
they do this other stuff but they a lot

802
00:26:13,909 --> 00:26:12,240
of the stuff is is not not exposed for

803
00:26:15,289 --> 00:26:13,919
example people don't remember all their

804
00:26:17,210 --> 00:26:15,299
experience they only remember part of

805
00:26:18,890 --> 00:26:17,220
their experience so if the aliens wanted

806
00:26:20,269 --> 00:26:18,900
you to not remember the experience they

807
00:26:21,830 --> 00:26:20,279
could block the experience there's

808
00:26:23,630 --> 00:26:21,840
people think oh this is leaking out no

809
00:26:26,090 --> 00:26:23,640
no they if they have control to come

810
00:26:28,490 --> 00:26:26,100
here from a star system they can they

811
00:26:29,870 --> 00:26:28,500
can control uh a person's but they're

812
00:26:31,669 --> 00:26:29,880
allowing people to remember certain

813
00:26:33,830 --> 00:26:31,679
little bits and pieces where the person

814
00:26:35,269 --> 00:26:33,840
is trying to put it together and that's

815
00:26:37,010 --> 00:26:35,279
what they want you to do because when

816
00:26:38,750 --> 00:26:37,020
you figure it out then it doesn't leave

817
00:26:41,090 --> 00:26:38,760
your head but if someone else comes and

818
00:26:43,310 --> 00:26:41,100
tells you oh this I had this experience

819
00:26:44,930 --> 00:26:43,320
then you go yeah it doesn't really mean

820
00:26:46,250 --> 00:26:44,940
anything if it happens to you it's a

821
00:26:47,450 --> 00:26:46,260
different thing so that's what I think

822
00:26:48,710 --> 00:26:47,460
they're doing they're doing this gradual

823
00:26:50,450 --> 00:26:48,720
disclosure same as I think the

824
00:26:52,190 --> 00:26:50,460
government's doing gradual disclosure I

825
00:26:54,289 --> 00:26:52,200
don't care what Chris Mellon says oh no

826
00:26:56,930 --> 00:26:54,299
there's no gradual disclosure absolute

827
00:27:00,169 --> 00:26:56,940
nonsense I talked to producers who were

828
00:27:02,090 --> 00:27:00,179
given jobs to do uh documentaries for

829
00:27:03,470 --> 00:27:02,100
the government uh absolutely not true

830
00:27:05,570 --> 00:27:03,480
they are dropping the story and they're

831
00:27:07,549 --> 00:27:05,580
doing it gradually uh instead of

832
00:27:09,470 --> 00:27:07,559
dropping it all in one piece because I

833
00:27:10,850 --> 00:27:09,480
say that this thing is going to be a

834
00:27:12,289 --> 00:27:10,860
thousand times more complex than people

835
00:27:14,330 --> 00:27:12,299
think it is when you start getting

836
00:27:16,070 --> 00:27:14,340
inside the thing about if it's inside

837
00:27:18,710 --> 00:27:16,080
your head if there's no time in space

838
00:27:20,149 --> 00:27:18,720
then how big is the universe that this

839
00:27:21,409 --> 00:27:20,159
kind of stuff the people are not going

840
00:27:22,310 --> 00:27:21,419
to be able to handle and the other thing

841
00:27:23,810 --> 00:27:22,320
they're not going to be able to handle

842
00:27:25,070 --> 00:27:23,820
people say oh we want to know the truth

843
00:27:27,529 --> 00:27:25,080
we all just want to know what's going on

844
00:27:29,330 --> 00:27:27,539
and I say do you seriously think in the

845
00:27:31,190 --> 00:27:29,340
United States of America that they are

846
00:27:32,690 --> 00:27:31,200
going to allow Grays reptilians and

847
00:27:34,370 --> 00:27:32,700
mantids to walk down the streets of the

848
00:27:35,870 --> 00:27:34,380
United States of America to immigrate

849
00:27:37,490 --> 00:27:35,880
into the United States of America and

850
00:27:39,230 --> 00:27:37,500
build factories with their free energy

851
00:27:41,510 --> 00:27:39,240
and stuff and compete against the

852
00:27:43,190 --> 00:27:41,520
Americans it ain't happening they have

853
00:27:45,049 --> 00:27:43,200
problems with all sorts of races outside

854
00:27:47,390 --> 00:27:45,059
the United States now you got this

855
00:27:49,549 --> 00:27:47,400
America first thing so it's if you're a

856
00:27:51,289 --> 00:27:49,559
foreigner are you going to allow these

857
00:27:53,870 --> 00:27:51,299
highly Advanced beings to come in and

858
00:27:56,630 --> 00:27:53,880
integrate uh there's so many things that

859
00:27:58,190 --> 00:27:56,640
people haven't thought about as to uh

860
00:27:59,930 --> 00:27:58,200
why this thing is being covered up by

861
00:28:01,610 --> 00:27:59,940
the government or why they're gradually

862
00:28:03,529 --> 00:28:01,620
releasing this thing and I think both

863
00:28:04,909 --> 00:28:03,539
the government and the intelligence are

864
00:28:06,409 --> 00:28:04,919
doing the same thing they're doing this

865
00:28:08,450 --> 00:28:06,419
gradual thing where people are telling

866
00:28:10,789 --> 00:28:08,460
stories and it's advancing like I even

867
00:28:12,830 --> 00:28:10,799
have like I did orbs for for a couple of

868
00:28:14,330 --> 00:28:12,840
years now or panels and I absolutely

869
00:28:15,830 --> 00:28:14,340
maintain in the last couple of months

870
00:28:18,049 --> 00:28:15,840
the orbs have actually changed the

871
00:28:20,090 --> 00:28:18,059
photographs have actually changed and

872
00:28:22,130 --> 00:28:20,100
we're getting these orbs now with actual

873
00:28:24,409 --> 00:28:22,140
structure inside the orb like almost

874
00:28:26,810 --> 00:28:24,419
like a cell it's very very bizarre and

875
00:28:28,610 --> 00:28:26,820
I've never seen this before and uh so

876
00:28:30,409 --> 00:28:28,620
I've gone through almost 50 years of

877
00:28:32,570 --> 00:28:30,419
this and I see the pattern keeps

878
00:28:34,970 --> 00:28:32,580
changing and changing even like 1890

879
00:28:36,289 --> 00:28:34,980
1895 1896 they were flying around in

880
00:28:38,210 --> 00:28:36,299
Wooden Ships and they said they were

881
00:28:40,610 --> 00:28:38,220
from Mars they're changing the pattern

882
00:28:41,810 --> 00:28:40,620
as they go along and and people want to

883
00:28:43,490 --> 00:28:41,820
get to the end let's get to the end

884
00:28:45,470 --> 00:28:43,500
what's the end story and this thing is

885
00:28:47,870 --> 00:28:45,480
going to go on for a long time because

886
00:28:49,610 --> 00:28:47,880
it's a gradual thing and it's very very

887
00:28:52,490 --> 00:28:49,620
Advanced it's very very it's going to be

888
00:28:54,549 --> 00:28:52,500
very little material aspect to this

889
00:28:57,529 --> 00:28:54,559
thing it's going to be very very very

890
00:28:59,269 --> 00:28:57,539
bizarre and almost like the Leslie Kane

891
00:29:01,190 --> 00:28:59,279
story where the hand appears in the

892
00:29:02,930 --> 00:29:01,200
Seance that she she touches the hand and

893
00:29:04,970 --> 00:29:02,940
Shakes the hand she's it's a real hand

894
00:29:07,070 --> 00:29:04,980
and then bangs the table and disappears

895
00:29:08,750 --> 00:29:07,080
it's that kind of thing where it's Way

896
00:29:10,430 --> 00:29:08,760
Beyond it when anybody can think what

897
00:29:12,230 --> 00:29:10,440
these beings can do so they have to

898
00:29:15,350 --> 00:29:12,240
release it to us gradually and that was

899
00:29:17,390 --> 00:29:15,360
actually in the the report that was done

900
00:29:18,950 --> 00:29:17,400
in the 1960s for the US government that

901
00:29:20,750 --> 00:29:18,960
you got to acclimatize the people you've

902
00:29:22,190 --> 00:29:20,760
got to slowly bring this thing out and

903
00:29:24,409 --> 00:29:22,200
then people will say like when was gay

904
00:29:25,490 --> 00:29:24,419
marriage uh accepted and go I don't know

905
00:29:26,630 --> 00:29:25,500
I don't really remember what happened

906
00:29:28,669 --> 00:29:26,640
it's going to be that kind of thing

907
00:29:31,850 --> 00:29:28,679
where it just slowly happens like now

908
00:29:33,649 --> 00:29:31,860
people won't won't attack you as I put

909
00:29:35,450 --> 00:29:33,659
on Facebook people now won't attack you

910
00:29:36,889 --> 00:29:35,460
because you signed a UFO because the New

911
00:29:38,210 --> 00:29:36,899
York Times said UFOs are real and the

912
00:29:39,409 --> 00:29:38,220
government is investigating it now

913
00:29:41,269 --> 00:29:39,419
they'll attack you if you put something

914
00:29:42,830 --> 00:29:41,279
about orbs now they can attack you so

915
00:29:44,750 --> 00:29:42,840
they've moved all the Skeptics have

916
00:29:46,549 --> 00:29:44,760
moved off UFOs and they've gone to other

917
00:29:47,750 --> 00:29:46,559
paranormal subjects and and that's

918
00:29:48,950 --> 00:29:47,760
what's happening it says gradual

919
00:29:50,930 --> 00:29:48,960
disclosure where the government will

920
00:29:52,310 --> 00:29:50,940
eventually say oh there's aliens and

921
00:29:53,630 --> 00:29:52,320
everybody go yeah I know there's aliens

922
00:29:55,610 --> 00:29:53,640
okay now where are they from that people

923
00:29:58,909 --> 00:29:55,620
it won't affect them at all same as when

924
00:30:00,350 --> 00:29:58,919
1990 2017 when they released the fact

925
00:30:02,149 --> 00:30:00,360
there was UFOs and they were actually

926
00:30:04,130 --> 00:30:02,159
there was a cover-up and there were UFOs

927
00:30:05,690 --> 00:30:04,140
what happened nothing nobody did

928
00:30:07,190 --> 00:30:05,700
anything because they went through this

929
00:30:09,409 --> 00:30:07,200
gradual acclimatization of getting

930
00:30:10,850 --> 00:30:09,419
people ready for the fact that aliens do

931
00:30:14,330 --> 00:30:10,860
exist

932
00:30:16,190 --> 00:30:14,340
are there any two or one or two standout

933
00:30:18,830 --> 00:30:16,200
accounts from the book that if someone

934
00:30:20,570 --> 00:30:18,840
from a serious scientific or academic

935
00:30:22,850 --> 00:30:20,580
background came forward to your Grant

936
00:30:24,529 --> 00:30:22,860
and said look I'm willing to spend a

937
00:30:27,409 --> 00:30:24,539
small amount of my time looking into

938
00:30:29,810 --> 00:30:27,419
this are there any cases you would Point

939
00:30:32,029 --> 00:30:29,820
them to and recommend if they had no

940
00:30:33,590 --> 00:30:32,039
former background in a UFO topic but

941
00:30:35,750 --> 00:30:33,600
wanted to get involved that you would

942
00:30:38,630 --> 00:30:35,760
say look into this gentleman's or look

943
00:30:40,250 --> 00:30:38,640
into this ladies you know case okay well

944
00:30:41,570 --> 00:30:40,260
there's there's no reproducibility with

945
00:30:42,710 --> 00:30:41,580
this again because it's an experience

946
00:30:44,090 --> 00:30:42,720
where they give the person the

947
00:30:45,769 --> 00:30:44,100
experience it's not like they can phone

948
00:30:48,710 --> 00:30:45,779
up the aliens and get back on the ship

949
00:30:50,570 --> 00:30:48,720
with their skeptical you know person but

950
00:30:52,370 --> 00:30:50,580
the three I would probably well I mean

951
00:30:53,450 --> 00:30:52,380
Chris bledso I would give and he's being

952
00:30:55,010 --> 00:30:53,460
investigated by the US government

953
00:30:56,930 --> 00:30:55,020
they're good people on his property all

954
00:30:58,190 --> 00:30:56,940
the time and I actually talked to him

955
00:31:00,049 --> 00:30:58,200
about that and he said I asked him I

956
00:31:04,669 --> 00:31:00,059
said what are you guys doing on my

957
00:31:06,470 --> 00:31:04,679
property it's got Dia and CIA and he

958
00:31:08,389 --> 00:31:06,480
showed that he I said did you ever did

959
00:31:10,549 --> 00:31:08,399
you ever get asked by the government uh

960
00:31:12,710 --> 00:31:10,559
how to fly craft he said oh yeah I said

961
00:31:14,750 --> 00:31:12,720
David brought a U.S general to me and I

962
00:31:16,130 --> 00:31:14,760
described to a U.S Air Force General how

963
00:31:17,870 --> 00:31:16,140
to fly the craft so Chris is being

964
00:31:20,210 --> 00:31:17,880
investigated the other one I would give

965
00:31:22,490 --> 00:31:20,220
you is Robert out of uh Los Angeles

966
00:31:25,850 --> 00:31:22,500
although I don't think he wants to be be

967
00:31:28,669 --> 00:31:25,860
public about it and the the retired U.S

968
00:31:30,769 --> 00:31:28,679
Air Force or the guy that flew 747s

969
00:31:34,130 --> 00:31:30,779
United Airlines he's had two experiences

970
00:31:35,870 --> 00:31:34,140
of this uh this encounter out of San

971
00:31:38,090 --> 00:31:35,880
Francisco and the other would be John

972
00:31:40,130 --> 00:31:38,100
Ramirez the John Ramirez has Dow come

973
00:31:41,810 --> 00:31:40,140
forward from the CIA and John Ramirez

974
00:31:43,130 --> 00:31:41,820
suddenly says oh yeah I've but his

975
00:31:44,810 --> 00:31:43,140
description of flying the craft is

976
00:31:46,970 --> 00:31:44,820
completely different he's talking about

977
00:31:50,630 --> 00:31:46,980
uh I won't get into this is very complex

978
00:31:53,149 --> 00:31:50,640
it's much more esoteric much more uh

979
00:31:55,070 --> 00:31:53,159
sort of woo then than this stuff it's it

980
00:31:56,750 --> 00:31:55,080
gets into it's not even a craft when

981
00:31:58,430 --> 00:31:56,760
he's moving around and he goes to this

982
00:32:00,230 --> 00:31:58,440
planet of ice and stuff like that so

983
00:32:02,029 --> 00:32:00,240
John Ramirez is a guy he's a high level

984
00:32:03,590 --> 00:32:02,039
CIA guy that you can check his

985
00:32:05,330 --> 00:32:03,600
background or whatever and question him

986
00:32:07,250 --> 00:32:05,340
so there are these people out there and

987
00:32:08,750 --> 00:32:07,260
the key is to to make it acceptable for

988
00:32:11,450 --> 00:32:08,760
these people to come forward because if

989
00:32:12,830 --> 00:32:11,460
you have 14 of all experiences flying to

990
00:32:14,870 --> 00:32:12,840
craft there's a lot of people out there

991
00:32:16,310 --> 00:32:14,880
who are hiding hiding now that that

992
00:32:17,990 --> 00:32:16,320
could come forward but we have a number

993
00:32:19,490 --> 00:32:18,000
of Pilots there's three pilots and

994
00:32:21,529 --> 00:32:19,500
there's the guy from the CIA that I

995
00:32:23,810 --> 00:32:21,539
would that I would recommend

996
00:32:26,210 --> 00:32:23,820
you've mentioned there that the tales

997
00:32:29,389 --> 00:32:26,220
aren't reproducible in a scientific way

998
00:32:31,190 --> 00:32:29,399
and they're merely anecdotal how do we

999
00:32:33,110 --> 00:32:31,200
move on from that place you say the

1000
00:32:35,570 --> 00:32:33,120
experiences are the ones that really

1001
00:32:38,210 --> 00:32:35,580
need to be be talked to and that has to

1002
00:32:40,850 --> 00:32:38,220
open up is it a way that this weight of

1003
00:32:43,850 --> 00:32:40,860
testimony presented in a book like yours

1004
00:32:45,289 --> 00:32:43,860
can be valued by the more skeptical

1005
00:32:46,909 --> 00:32:45,299
community

1006
00:32:48,710 --> 00:32:46,919
okay well the way I see scientific

1007
00:32:53,389 --> 00:32:48,720
method working is it's number one it's

1008
00:32:55,190 --> 00:32:53,399
hypotheses everybody has a a an idea is

1009
00:32:57,110 --> 00:32:55,200
nothing proved you start with an idea oh

1010
00:32:59,750 --> 00:32:57,120
I think this is going on and then you

1011
00:33:01,370 --> 00:32:59,760
write a a an experiment where you say

1012
00:33:02,389 --> 00:33:01,380
I'm going to do this experiment and you

1013
00:33:03,710 --> 00:33:02,399
actually tell the people what the result

1014
00:33:04,850 --> 00:33:03,720
of the experiment is going to be and

1015
00:33:06,230 --> 00:33:04,860
then you try to get funding for it

1016
00:33:08,810 --> 00:33:06,240
because people say oh I'd like to have

1017
00:33:11,450 --> 00:33:08,820
that and so it starts with an idea and

1018
00:33:13,070 --> 00:33:11,460
then you you make observations uh then

1019
00:33:14,330 --> 00:33:13,080
uh you made you run experiment then you

1020
00:33:15,950 --> 00:33:14,340
make observations then you make a

1021
00:33:17,690 --> 00:33:15,960
conclusion and based on the conclusion

1022
00:33:19,490 --> 00:33:17,700
you make another hypothesis you get

1023
00:33:24,110 --> 00:33:19,500
another idea in your head and none of

1024
00:33:27,110 --> 00:33:24,120
that is really uh um sort of uh

1025
00:33:28,610 --> 00:33:27,120
um along the lines of of of of proving

1026
00:33:30,350 --> 00:33:28,620
to people because people will always

1027
00:33:32,090 --> 00:33:30,360
come up to the world as flat sun goes

1028
00:33:33,649 --> 00:33:32,100
around the earth uh people still believe

1029
00:33:35,630 --> 00:33:33,659
this kind of stuff

1030
00:33:38,450 --> 00:33:35,640
um the thing is that what we're doing

1031
00:33:39,710 --> 00:33:38,460
now is we're doing we're back in 1947.

1032
00:33:41,389 --> 00:33:39,720
so what we're saying is oh we need

1033
00:33:42,950 --> 00:33:41,399
Congress to look at this thing and

1034
00:33:44,149 --> 00:33:42,960
Congress is going to give money and

1035
00:33:45,950 --> 00:33:44,159
they're going to get monitors and

1036
00:33:47,509 --> 00:33:45,960
they're going to get uh cameras and

1037
00:33:49,970 --> 00:33:47,519
we're going to investigate this and I'm

1038
00:33:51,590 --> 00:33:49,980
going this thing is very plastic they

1039
00:33:53,389 --> 00:33:51,600
can come as whatever they want they can

1040
00:33:55,789 --> 00:33:53,399
tell even even the thing what the the

1041
00:33:58,190 --> 00:33:55,799
the idea of what the craft looked like

1042
00:34:00,830 --> 00:33:58,200
so they asked the first uh Congressional

1043
00:34:02,870 --> 00:34:00,840
uh report what what did they what is the

1044
00:34:04,490 --> 00:34:02,880
the craft look like and they said

1045
00:34:06,049 --> 00:34:04,500
classified we can't tell you what about

1046
00:34:07,549 --> 00:34:06,059
the sightings classified we can't tell

1047
00:34:08,810 --> 00:34:07,559
you so what are we doing we're setting

1048
00:34:10,909 --> 00:34:08,820
up another thing where we're going to

1049
00:34:12,889 --> 00:34:10,919
investigate UFO sightings and that's

1050
00:34:14,089 --> 00:34:12,899
anecdotal as well you can't reproduce

1051
00:34:16,010 --> 00:34:14,099
that but we're going to go through that

1052
00:34:17,389 --> 00:34:16,020
we've done it like and I said it's like

1053
00:34:19,790 --> 00:34:17,399
grade one we're going to go through

1054
00:34:21,829 --> 00:34:19,800
grade one for the 57th time I mean it's

1055
00:34:23,450 --> 00:34:21,839
like give it like let's move on let's

1056
00:34:25,790 --> 00:34:23,460
accept the fact that UF was a real feel

1057
00:34:27,649 --> 00:34:25,800
and get to another anecdotal thing which

1058
00:34:30,109 --> 00:34:27,659
is the the craft which gives you these

1059
00:34:31,790 --> 00:34:30,119
ideas that people will say oh that's how

1060
00:34:33,409 --> 00:34:31,800
they're getting here and that's when you

1061
00:34:35,329 --> 00:34:33,419
get people working on Wormhole Theory

1062
00:34:37,609 --> 00:34:35,339
and stuff like that this whole idea that

1063
00:34:39,109 --> 00:34:37,619
these guys get these ideas and it leads

1064
00:34:40,609 --> 00:34:39,119
to them doing an experiment which may

1065
00:34:42,649 --> 00:34:40,619
prove some of it but you got to get past

1066
00:34:44,089 --> 00:34:42,659
the sightings and you got to get past it

1067
00:34:46,669 --> 00:34:44,099
you got to get to this idea where people

1068
00:34:48,169 --> 00:34:46,679
are saying 360 degree vision and they're

1069
00:34:50,570 --> 00:34:48,179
all telling it and this well is this

1070
00:34:52,369 --> 00:34:50,580
possible and it inspires people who can

1071
00:34:53,750 --> 00:34:52,379
do the experiments but until we talk

1072
00:34:55,369 --> 00:34:53,760
these people and realize that there are

1073
00:34:57,109 --> 00:34:55,379
piles of people telling these very very

1074
00:35:00,530 --> 00:34:57,119
bizarre things and they're very very

1075
00:35:02,089 --> 00:35:00,540
common we're we're gonna be sort of

1076
00:35:03,950 --> 00:35:02,099
thrown off we still believe there's time

1077
00:35:05,150 --> 00:35:03,960
and space we still believe there's nuts

1078
00:35:07,670 --> 00:35:05,160
and bolts and if we can get a piece of

1079
00:35:09,170 --> 00:35:07,680
craft even the pieces of craft I say to

1080
00:35:10,609 --> 00:35:09,180
people like come on we're going to

1081
00:35:12,349 --> 00:35:10,619
investigate this stuff this stuff is

1082
00:35:14,390 --> 00:35:12,359
dropping they're dropping it on purpose

1083
00:35:15,770 --> 00:35:14,400
when you come across the Galaxy little

1084
00:35:17,569 --> 00:35:15,780
pieces don't start falling off the

1085
00:35:19,190 --> 00:35:17,579
Flying Saucer they're dropping it on

1086
00:35:20,930 --> 00:35:19,200
purpose you got to realize what what's

1087
00:35:22,550 --> 00:35:20,940
what's going on here and you can pick up

1088
00:35:25,370 --> 00:35:22,560
the metal but to think you're gonna pick

1089
00:35:28,010 --> 00:35:25,380
up a piece of metal and and investigate

1090
00:35:30,230 --> 00:35:28,020
it uh you know uh build a flank saucer

1091
00:35:32,089 --> 00:35:30,240
but you can learn from what they're

1092
00:35:34,010 --> 00:35:32,099
telling us you can learn this thing even

1093
00:35:35,930 --> 00:35:34,020
with the idea where the metal was being

1094
00:35:37,849 --> 00:35:35,940
put down one atom at a time people can

1095
00:35:39,530 --> 00:35:37,859
reproduce that people can get ideas on

1096
00:35:41,990 --> 00:35:39,540
how to do it how the structure works

1097
00:35:45,170 --> 00:35:42,000
same as they use for pieces of the same

1098
00:35:47,089 --> 00:35:45,180
thing they use for looking at how a tree

1099
00:35:49,490 --> 00:35:47,099
puts a sap up into the tree you start

1100
00:35:50,750 --> 00:35:49,500
looking at how the nature does it and it

1101
00:35:52,130 --> 00:35:50,760
gives you an idea how to build something

1102
00:35:53,690 --> 00:35:52,140
that's what we've got to look at the

1103
00:35:55,250 --> 00:35:53,700
anomalies but we've got to get past the

1104
00:35:57,349 --> 00:35:55,260
sightings we got to get into the

1105
00:35:58,790 --> 00:35:57,359
deciding thing because that's critically

1106
00:36:00,710 --> 00:35:58,800
important when when they start flying

1107
00:36:02,270 --> 00:36:00,720
the craft and and they say how do they

1108
00:36:04,190 --> 00:36:02,280
get here what are they doing you start

1109
00:36:06,230 --> 00:36:04,200
realizing that time and space may not

1110
00:36:08,810 --> 00:36:06,240
exist if you run Johnson's story is true

1111
00:36:10,670 --> 00:36:08,820
and he moved 50 to 70 000 light years in

1112
00:36:12,109 --> 00:36:10,680
one second there's something seriously

1113
00:36:13,550 --> 00:36:12,119
wrong with time and space and that's all

1114
00:36:15,050 --> 00:36:13,560
we need to say you don't need to do an

1115
00:36:16,849 --> 00:36:15,060
experiment you just got to say hey

1116
00:36:18,770 --> 00:36:16,859
something may be wrong here and it's not

1117
00:36:20,510 --> 00:36:18,780
until you deal with the anomaly as long

1118
00:36:22,430 --> 00:36:20,520
as you keep shuffling the same pieces

1119
00:36:23,930 --> 00:36:22,440
around it's never going to work there's

1120
00:36:25,790 --> 00:36:23,940
a piece that's made missing we gotta

1121
00:36:27,109 --> 00:36:25,800
stick in these pieces and that's the

1122
00:36:29,270 --> 00:36:27,119
anomalies and that's why these people

1123
00:36:30,589 --> 00:36:29,280
are so important their stories that they

1124
00:36:31,910 --> 00:36:30,599
have to be gathered and they have to be

1125
00:36:33,349 --> 00:36:31,920
analyzed because they're telling

1126
00:36:34,970 --> 00:36:33,359
extremely important things half the

1127
00:36:36,650 --> 00:36:34,980
people are healed half the people claim

1128
00:36:39,230 --> 00:36:36,660
they can heal you start seeing these

1129
00:36:41,150 --> 00:36:39,240
patterns over thousands of people and

1130
00:36:45,650 --> 00:36:41,160
you realize Like Whoa man there may be

1131
00:36:48,589 --> 00:36:45,660
some some uh experiment or even Tyler D

1132
00:36:51,109 --> 00:36:48,599
where if you open up you may be in you

1133
00:36:53,390 --> 00:36:51,119
may get contact like Tyler D the guy

1134
00:36:55,310 --> 00:36:53,400
from American Cosmic

1135
00:36:57,349 --> 00:36:55,320
um he's got like 40 inventions the one

1136
00:36:59,450 --> 00:36:57,359
invention he had he told me about when I

1137
00:37:01,609 --> 00:36:59,460
had a meeting with him uh he told me

1138
00:37:03,770 --> 00:37:01,619
about that and that apparently was sold

1139
00:37:05,390 --> 00:37:03,780
on NASDAQ that company that was part of

1140
00:37:07,069 --> 00:37:05,400
that invention was sold the NASDAQ for

1141
00:37:08,569 --> 00:37:07,079
100 million dollars there are people who

1142
00:37:10,190 --> 00:37:08,579
are getting inventions out of this I can

1143
00:37:11,569 --> 00:37:10,200
guarantee you that a lot of the

1144
00:37:12,770 --> 00:37:11,579
invisible College are not coming forward

1145
00:37:14,329 --> 00:37:12,780
not because they don't want to be

1146
00:37:15,470 --> 00:37:14,339
ridiculed it's because they're waiting

1147
00:37:16,670 --> 00:37:15,480
to get a patent they're trying to figure

1148
00:37:17,750 --> 00:37:16,680
out and they're talking to the

1149
00:37:19,250 --> 00:37:17,760
experiences they're talking to Chris

1150
00:37:21,109 --> 00:37:19,260
Bledsoe they're trying to figure out and

1151
00:37:22,250 --> 00:37:21,119
that's what the Chris Chris's people

1152
00:37:24,109 --> 00:37:22,260
told him he said why are you coming to

1153
00:37:25,609 --> 00:37:24,119
me why are you on my way in my property

1154
00:37:28,010 --> 00:37:25,619
what's the deal and he said well Chris

1155
00:37:30,109 --> 00:37:28,020
he said it appears they they they like

1156
00:37:32,089 --> 00:37:30,119
they like you they're you've got contact

1157
00:37:34,250 --> 00:37:32,099
they don't like us we haven't got any

1158
00:37:35,810 --> 00:37:34,260
contact so we have to come and see what

1159
00:37:37,609 --> 00:37:35,820
they're doing with you and that's the

1160
00:37:40,130 --> 00:37:37,619
whole deal that you may get contact you

1161
00:37:42,170 --> 00:37:40,140
may get into this uh ability to pick

1162
00:37:44,630 --> 00:37:42,180
this up and get an inspiration and get

1163
00:37:46,190 --> 00:37:44,640
patents Tyler D's got 40 patents and he

1164
00:37:48,230 --> 00:37:46,200
said they're they're all coming he tells

1165
00:37:50,390 --> 00:37:48,240
exactly how he does it or Gary Nolan

1166
00:37:51,890 --> 00:37:50,400
says I don't know how the system works

1167
00:37:53,210 --> 00:37:51,900
but I know how to make it work and he

1168
00:37:55,430 --> 00:37:53,220
has this thing where he puts the the

1169
00:37:56,930 --> 00:37:55,440
question he thinks out all the all the

1170
00:37:58,430 --> 00:37:56,940
scenarios he puts a question beside the

1171
00:38:00,530 --> 00:37:58,440
bed at night and he wakes up in the

1172
00:38:02,870 --> 00:38:00,540
morning and that morning or the next day

1173
00:38:04,670 --> 00:38:02,880
or two the idea comes and solves the

1174
00:38:06,230 --> 00:38:04,680
problem in his head so this is kind of

1175
00:38:07,670 --> 00:38:06,240
stuff that we can work on but it's not

1176
00:38:08,930 --> 00:38:07,680
until you start believing it and you

1177
00:38:10,550 --> 00:38:08,940
start listening to these people as long

1178
00:38:11,810 --> 00:38:10,560
as we say oh it's anecdotal we don't

1179
00:38:13,310 --> 00:38:11,820
need to listen to this stuff we throw

1180
00:38:14,870 --> 00:38:13,320
this stuff in the garbage and there's a

1181
00:38:17,870 --> 00:38:14,880
lot of stuff here that will give people

1182
00:38:19,490 --> 00:38:17,880
ideas on on what we may have wrong what

1183
00:38:21,589 --> 00:38:19,500
anomaly because something's wrong

1184
00:38:23,030 --> 00:38:21,599
otherwise this would not be happening if

1185
00:38:25,609 --> 00:38:23,040
the material world was as people

1186
00:38:27,530 --> 00:38:25,619
describe this would not be happening

1187
00:38:29,150 --> 00:38:27,540
let's Segway into some listener

1188
00:38:30,770 --> 00:38:29,160
questions that follow on nicely from

1189
00:38:33,530 --> 00:38:30,780
what you've said there Grant the first

1190
00:38:35,930 --> 00:38:33,540
one from Baron fly guy did any of the

1191
00:38:41,329 --> 00:38:35,940
pilots check how time had passed before

1192
00:38:45,589 --> 00:38:43,609
um well the thing that stood out is he

1193
00:38:46,970 --> 00:38:45,599
also it was instantaneous that they

1194
00:38:48,530 --> 00:38:46,980
would think about it and boom they would

1195
00:38:50,510 --> 00:38:48,540
be there it's almost like a remote

1196
00:38:52,250 --> 00:38:50,520
viewer right that's the analogy I give

1197
00:38:54,650 --> 00:38:52,260
remote viewer when they read out the

1198
00:38:56,569 --> 00:38:54,660
number and then the guy says okay I'm

1199
00:38:58,730 --> 00:38:56,579
over the target it's instantaneous it's

1200
00:39:00,530 --> 00:38:58,740
like and it's the idea that there is no

1201
00:39:02,990 --> 00:39:00,540
time and space everything is here and

1202
00:39:05,150 --> 00:39:03,000
now and so when you go to do a remote

1203
00:39:07,069 --> 00:39:05,160
viewing session you go inside your head

1204
00:39:08,569 --> 00:39:07,079
it's all inside your head and that's

1205
00:39:09,950 --> 00:39:08,579
where you get it and this may be the

1206
00:39:11,510 --> 00:39:09,960
same thing that you're going inside your

1207
00:39:13,670 --> 00:39:11,520
head you've heard this with Auto Body

1208
00:39:15,470 --> 00:39:13,680
Experience stuff the one guy that was a

1209
00:39:17,510 --> 00:39:15,480
pilot is the uh I know you've

1210
00:39:20,569 --> 00:39:17,520
interviewed him he's the um head of

1211
00:39:22,550 --> 00:39:20,579
mufon for Japan he said all of his are

1212
00:39:24,290 --> 00:39:22,560
out of body experience all of them and

1213
00:39:26,210 --> 00:39:24,300
he goes to the craft he deals with the

1214
00:39:28,430 --> 00:39:26,220
with the with the beings he's flown the

1215
00:39:30,050 --> 00:39:28,440
craft he talks about them pulling books

1216
00:39:32,089 --> 00:39:30,060
out of the wall with it with information

1217
00:39:33,710 --> 00:39:32,099
they just the wall is it looks like it's

1218
00:39:34,910 --> 00:39:33,720
completely white and they just put their

1219
00:39:36,890 --> 00:39:34,920
hand there and this book comes out of

1220
00:39:38,270 --> 00:39:36,900
the wall and he's described this and he

1221
00:39:40,310 --> 00:39:38,280
said he stopped doing it he had 22

1222
00:39:43,190 --> 00:39:40,320
sessions but you get that kind of stuff

1223
00:39:45,470 --> 00:39:43,200
that leads you to uh to to understand

1224
00:39:48,050 --> 00:39:45,480
that that we've got a problem with time

1225
00:39:49,730 --> 00:39:48,060
and space if Ron Johnson's right then it

1226
00:39:52,550 --> 00:39:49,740
all may be here and now they said to

1227
00:39:54,770 --> 00:39:52,560
Iran go within yourself it's inside of

1228
00:39:57,050 --> 00:39:54,780
you and and that's the whole deal that

1229
00:39:59,690 --> 00:39:57,060
just it shatters everything that we

1230
00:40:01,130 --> 00:39:59,700
believe and it's just so far removed and

1231
00:40:03,230 --> 00:40:01,140
that's maybe why they're gradually

1232
00:40:06,170 --> 00:40:03,240
releasing it to us so that we can

1233
00:40:07,790 --> 00:40:06,180
gradually get the concept one piece at a

1234
00:40:09,230 --> 00:40:07,800
time rather than dumping this on because

1235
00:40:12,589 --> 00:40:09,240
it's going to be a thousand times more

1236
00:40:14,210 --> 00:40:12,599
complex or even like uh David boam said

1237
00:40:15,710 --> 00:40:14,220
at one point he said when you get to the

1238
00:40:17,210 --> 00:40:15,720
bottom of the quantum physics world you

1239
00:40:19,370 --> 00:40:17,220
figure it all out he said there's just

1240
00:40:20,990 --> 00:40:19,380
another level below that I mean Universe

1241
00:40:22,670 --> 00:40:21,000
the universe may be that complex and

1242
00:40:24,410 --> 00:40:22,680
it's just it's getting bigger and more

1243
00:40:25,970 --> 00:40:24,420
complex and we're helping build the

1244
00:40:27,829 --> 00:40:25,980
world with with our Consciousness we're

1245
00:40:29,510 --> 00:40:27,839
creating we're manifesting the world and

1246
00:40:30,770 --> 00:40:29,520
stuff like that that kind of stuff I

1247
00:40:32,510 --> 00:40:30,780
don't think people can absolutely

1248
00:40:34,490 --> 00:40:32,520
believe that you manifest everything

1249
00:40:36,290 --> 00:40:34,500
around you there is no other rule that

1250
00:40:38,510 --> 00:40:36,300
appears to be the rule but people say ah

1251
00:40:40,190 --> 00:40:38,520
come on so we're so far removed our

1252
00:40:42,589 --> 00:40:40,200
belief system them and it's not until

1253
00:40:44,870 --> 00:40:42,599
our belief system changes and we're able

1254
00:40:46,609 --> 00:40:44,880
to be open to that that we can start to

1255
00:40:48,410 --> 00:40:46,619
explore and do experiments and stuff

1256
00:40:50,329 --> 00:40:48,420
like that as long as we're throwing all

1257
00:40:52,370 --> 00:40:50,339
the data in the garbage uh we're going

1258
00:40:54,349 --> 00:40:52,380
to just Shuffle this pieces around and

1259
00:40:55,849 --> 00:40:54,359
do some more investigation get some more

1260
00:40:56,810 --> 00:40:55,859
UFO sightings how many green ones how

1261
00:40:58,609 --> 00:40:56,820
many of your head ones how many fast

1262
00:41:00,530 --> 00:40:58,619
ones let me slow ones and the craft can

1263
00:41:03,470 --> 00:41:00,540
appear as whatever it wants it can morph

1264
00:41:05,569 --> 00:41:03,480
everybody knows that apparently I had a

1265
00:41:07,970 --> 00:41:05,579
friend who was at a meeting he was shown

1266
00:41:09,950 --> 00:41:07,980
a classified film and this was at the

1267
00:41:11,450 --> 00:41:09,960
the Monroe Institute the bunch of people

1268
00:41:14,150 --> 00:41:11,460
you probably heard the story he was

1269
00:41:16,250 --> 00:41:14,160
there he showed a classified film from

1270
00:41:19,190 --> 00:41:16,260
the U.S government that showed a craft

1271
00:41:20,930 --> 00:41:19,200
morphing and if that's true forget about

1272
00:41:23,089 --> 00:41:20,940
UFO sightings it can appear as well

1273
00:41:25,430 --> 00:41:23,099
whatever it wants whatever size it wants

1274
00:41:27,470 --> 00:41:25,440
this is a total waste of time we've got

1275
00:41:29,569 --> 00:41:27,480
to go to the experiences and ask them

1276
00:41:31,790 --> 00:41:29,579
what they're doing the craft is is is

1277
00:41:33,170 --> 00:41:31,800
not going to teach as much except to say

1278
00:41:34,790 --> 00:41:33,180
yeah something's going on it probably

1279
00:41:36,710 --> 00:41:34,800
isn't ours

1280
00:41:38,390 --> 00:41:36,720
so on that and like you say the

1281
00:41:40,190 --> 00:41:38,400
instantaneous speed and distance

1282
00:41:41,569 --> 00:41:40,200
traveled but did any of them ever

1283
00:41:43,790 --> 00:41:41,579
looking you know

1284
00:41:46,069 --> 00:41:43,800
at one point it was 5 p.m the next point

1285
00:41:48,410 --> 00:41:46,079
it was 501 but within that they've had

1286
00:41:50,390 --> 00:41:48,420
an experience it lasted hours but so

1287
00:41:52,430 --> 00:41:50,400
that never happened but like the only

1288
00:41:54,650 --> 00:41:52,440
one was the only one that explained any

1289
00:41:56,870 --> 00:41:54,660
sort of time was Susie Hansen's story

1290
00:41:58,310 --> 00:41:56,880
from New Zealand Susie Hansen tells the

1291
00:42:00,290 --> 00:41:58,320
story they were teaching her how to fly

1292
00:42:01,609 --> 00:42:00,300
the craft one with a stick where she was

1293
00:42:02,990 --> 00:42:01,619
moving the stick and one with her mind

1294
00:42:04,970 --> 00:42:03,000
and she said it was easier to do with

1295
00:42:06,710 --> 00:42:04,980
the mind and then they take her back she

1296
00:42:08,390 --> 00:42:06,720
says she's in it she thinks she's in

1297
00:42:10,190 --> 00:42:08,400
North America somewhere she's on the far

1298
00:42:12,230 --> 00:42:10,200
side of the planet and that's when they

1299
00:42:13,730 --> 00:42:12,240
take her through the planet and she's

1300
00:42:15,050 --> 00:42:13,740
terrified she said we're going to go

1301
00:42:16,730 --> 00:42:15,060
through the planet and they actually fly

1302
00:42:18,770 --> 00:42:16,740
the craft right through the middle of

1303
00:42:19,970 --> 00:42:18,780
the Earth and she they talk about I

1304
00:42:22,670 --> 00:42:19,980
can't remember she described it Center

1305
00:42:24,770 --> 00:42:22,680
she has her book um dual Soul connection

1306
00:42:26,690 --> 00:42:24,780
and then her new book but she describes

1307
00:42:28,550 --> 00:42:26,700
this I have a chapter but she has an old

1308
00:42:29,810 --> 00:42:28,560
chapter in her book on this where

1309
00:42:32,150 --> 00:42:29,820
they're taking her and they talk about

1310
00:42:34,609 --> 00:42:32,160
they change Dimensions which I think

1311
00:42:36,170 --> 00:42:34,619
giant or Ron

1312
00:42:37,670 --> 00:42:36,180
um Johnson talked about that as well

1313
00:42:39,170 --> 00:42:37,680
almost like they were going through the

1314
00:42:41,089 --> 00:42:39,180
dimensions like going through our pages

1315
00:42:42,950 --> 00:42:41,099
of a book Jake they're going through the

1316
00:42:43,970 --> 00:42:42,960
dimensions she describes the same thing

1317
00:42:45,950 --> 00:42:43,980
that they could go through the Earth

1318
00:42:47,150 --> 00:42:45,960
because they could I I don't want to

1319
00:42:48,589 --> 00:42:47,160
quote her but it's like sort of they

1320
00:42:50,150 --> 00:42:48,599
could change the dimension and go

1321
00:42:53,089 --> 00:42:50,160
through the Earth they're not really at

1322
00:42:54,710 --> 00:42:53,099
the same uh vibration as the Earth but

1323
00:42:56,690 --> 00:42:54,720
she describes this time period going

1324
00:42:58,190 --> 00:42:56,700
through the Earth other than that no I

1325
00:42:59,690 --> 00:42:58,200
don't remember anybody and a lot of

1326
00:43:01,790 --> 00:42:59,700
people just had the craft like the guy

1327
00:43:04,430 --> 00:43:01,800
from Liverpool all he did they they were

1328
00:43:05,809 --> 00:43:04,440
just levitating at 50 feet or uh 500

1329
00:43:07,550 --> 00:43:05,819
feet off the ground and then bringing it

1330
00:43:08,990 --> 00:43:07,560
back down to the to the ground they

1331
00:43:10,250 --> 00:43:09,000
weren't really flying anywhere they were

1332
00:43:11,930 --> 00:43:10,260
just sort of this experimental thing

1333
00:43:13,609 --> 00:43:11,940
where there's a whole group of people in

1334
00:43:15,349 --> 00:43:13,619
there and he said can I have my turn and

1335
00:43:17,809 --> 00:43:15,359
they said yeah and then he took his turn

1336
00:43:19,490 --> 00:43:17,819
so a lot of them really don't really go

1337
00:43:20,630 --> 00:43:19,500
like uh there's only a couple of them

1338
00:43:23,630 --> 00:43:20,640
that went to the far side of the

1339
00:43:25,490 --> 00:43:23,640
universe and stuff or uh John Ramirez

1340
00:43:27,109 --> 00:43:25,500
talks about this ice planet that he goes

1341
00:43:28,309 --> 00:43:27,119
to and I'm not sure whether there's time

1342
00:43:30,109 --> 00:43:28,319
most of them I don't think there's

1343
00:43:32,270 --> 00:43:30,119
there's time and they'll point out the

1344
00:43:33,710 --> 00:43:32,280
fact that there is no time and space and

1345
00:43:35,450 --> 00:43:33,720
that's what falls apart when you start

1346
00:43:37,550 --> 00:43:35,460
looking at these stories is there may be

1347
00:43:40,430 --> 00:43:37,560
no time and space there may be all one

1348
00:43:42,349 --> 00:43:40,440
point it's all here it's all now there

1349
00:43:44,930 --> 00:43:42,359
everything is like a deck of card cards

1350
00:43:47,390 --> 00:43:44,940
and there's only here and now and that's

1351
00:43:49,190 --> 00:43:47,400
a very hard concept for people to

1352
00:43:51,710 --> 00:43:49,200
understand unless you get accustomed to

1353
00:43:52,910 --> 00:43:51,720
to the material and read it and the more

1354
00:43:56,270 --> 00:43:52,920
you see it the more you see that

1355
00:43:58,490 --> 00:43:56,280
material and uh no I don't there's only

1356
00:43:59,990 --> 00:43:58,500
Susie Hansen described a little bit of

1357
00:44:02,809 --> 00:44:00,000
that time going through the Earth but

1358
00:44:04,609 --> 00:44:02,819
other than that no no the time and space

1359
00:44:06,650 --> 00:44:04,619
where you see that in the free survey

1360
00:44:08,270 --> 00:44:06,660
that people will say time and space

1361
00:44:10,010 --> 00:44:08,280
basically disappeared the same as it

1362
00:44:11,809 --> 00:44:10,020
sort of disappears in another wide

1363
00:44:13,849 --> 00:44:11,819
experience or near-death experience or

1364
00:44:15,530 --> 00:44:13,859
as a psychedelics the same thing that

1365
00:44:19,190 --> 00:44:15,540
once you get into the field you get out

1366
00:44:20,990 --> 00:44:19,200
of the time the physical uh Dimension or

1367
00:44:23,089 --> 00:44:21,000
vibration or whatever time and space

1368
00:44:24,650 --> 00:44:23,099
seem to disappear or Chris Bledsoe

1369
00:44:27,410 --> 00:44:24,660
described when he had his initial

1370
00:44:29,569 --> 00:44:27,420
experience in 2007 he said it appeared

1371
00:44:31,309 --> 00:44:29,579
like he thought it was three days he

1372
00:44:33,770 --> 00:44:31,319
said when the experience happened it

1373
00:44:35,329 --> 00:44:33,780
appeared like it was three months that

1374
00:44:37,309 --> 00:44:35,339
he was with them three months and it was

1375
00:44:40,190 --> 00:44:37,319
only three days so it's the same sort of

1376
00:44:42,829 --> 00:44:40,200
time dilation weird thing where you get

1377
00:44:44,870 --> 00:44:42,839
the guy on DMT any and then on the the

1378
00:44:46,670 --> 00:44:44,880
if you've seen the the in the

1379
00:44:48,710 --> 00:44:46,680
documentary and he said how long was I

1380
00:44:50,690 --> 00:44:48,720
gone and they and they said 10 minutes

1381
00:44:52,190 --> 00:44:50,700
and he said A Thousand Years in 10

1382
00:44:54,589 --> 00:44:52,200
minutes that he thought he'd been there

1383
00:44:57,650 --> 00:44:54,599
for one guy 2500 years he planted a

1384
00:44:59,750 --> 00:44:57,660
forest on it on a on a a hill and he

1385
00:45:01,609 --> 00:44:59,760
remembered every minute of 2500 years he

1386
00:45:03,230 --> 00:45:01,619
was only gone 10 minutes so that's the

1387
00:45:04,849 --> 00:45:03,240
thing is when when when you get into

1388
00:45:07,370 --> 00:45:04,859
this field time and space disappear

1389
00:45:09,170 --> 00:45:07,380
because time and space are attributes of

1390
00:45:10,970 --> 00:45:09,180
the physical universe and when you get

1391
00:45:13,490 --> 00:45:10,980
into this field you are no longer in

1392
00:45:16,910 --> 00:45:13,500
this vibrating physical universe

1393
00:45:18,530 --> 00:45:16,920
next up from um Lycia or Licia apologies

1394
00:45:19,790 --> 00:45:18,540
for getting your name incorrect in one

1395
00:45:21,710 --> 00:45:19,800
of those at least

1396
00:45:23,809 --> 00:45:21,720
um she wants to know how often do you

1397
00:45:26,030 --> 00:45:23,819
hear of these UFO Sky Pilots having

1398
00:45:28,609 --> 00:45:26,040
discussions with beings in the craft

1399
00:45:31,069 --> 00:45:28,619
during the experiences and our many

1400
00:45:32,990 --> 00:45:31,079
questions asked

1401
00:45:34,670 --> 00:45:33,000
well they they're all experiences so

1402
00:45:37,550 --> 00:45:34,680
they have a lot of questions yeah so

1403
00:45:39,349 --> 00:45:37,560
they have a lot of encounters but when

1404
00:45:40,910 --> 00:45:39,359
they're flying the craft is only one of

1405
00:45:42,710 --> 00:45:40,920
their many experiences so it's not this

1406
00:45:45,650 --> 00:45:42,720
is the only experience they have they

1407
00:45:47,150 --> 00:45:45,660
have all sorts of uh ideas about uh like

1408
00:45:49,309 --> 00:45:47,160
Ron Johnson was taken to the spirit

1409
00:45:52,190 --> 00:45:49,319
world by his being and stuff but the the

1410
00:45:54,349 --> 00:45:52,200
one with the the craft uh usually it's

1411
00:45:56,630 --> 00:45:54,359
it's very simple like Chris bledsos was

1412
00:45:58,309 --> 00:45:56,640
to put his hand on his beehive that was

1413
00:46:01,849 --> 00:45:58,319
in the middle of the room and it's

1414
00:46:04,609 --> 00:46:01,859
basically very uh just how to how to do

1415
00:46:06,370 --> 00:46:04,619
it or this idea you know what to do just

1416
00:46:09,770 --> 00:46:06,380
do it it's very simple

1417
00:46:11,569 --> 00:46:09,780
instructions and um that's that's all

1418
00:46:13,430 --> 00:46:11,579
that happens but they do have all sorts

1419
00:46:15,290 --> 00:46:13,440
of other experiences in terms of like

1420
00:46:17,210 --> 00:46:15,300
writing books they can tell you where

1421
00:46:19,490 --> 00:46:17,220
the beings coming from what the name of

1422
00:46:21,890 --> 00:46:19,500
the being is uh all this kind of stuff

1423
00:46:24,290 --> 00:46:21,900
and uh so yeah they have a lot of

1424
00:46:25,910 --> 00:46:24,300
experiences but this one here no they

1425
00:46:29,930 --> 00:46:25,920
they

1426
00:46:31,730 --> 00:46:29,940
comes to this thing about the fact that

1427
00:46:33,890 --> 00:46:31,740
it's within you that that you can do it

1428
00:46:37,670 --> 00:46:33,900
it's within you go within yourself it's

1429
00:46:39,170 --> 00:46:37,680
there but uh not much of course I didn't

1430
00:46:41,210 --> 00:46:39,180
really ask any questions you know the

1431
00:46:42,650 --> 00:46:41,220
other was anything what happened after

1432
00:46:45,050 --> 00:46:42,660
that or anything like this I was just

1433
00:46:48,349 --> 00:46:45,060
particularly interested in that one idea

1434
00:46:50,990 --> 00:46:48,359
of the of of flying The Craft

1435
00:46:53,450 --> 00:46:51,000
next up is a question from Jason in LA

1436
00:46:55,790 --> 00:46:53,460
in your opinion Grant why do you think

1437
00:46:59,210 --> 00:46:55,800
UFOs of our crash

1438
00:47:00,050 --> 00:46:59,220
I think it's uh that's what I uh uh Tim

1439
00:47:01,550 --> 00:47:00,060
Taylor

1440
00:47:04,250 --> 00:47:01,560
um if you've heard the story it's in

1441
00:47:07,010 --> 00:47:04,260
American Cosmic where

1442
00:47:10,010 --> 00:47:07,020
um he took uh Diane pasolka and Gary

1443
00:47:11,870 --> 00:47:10,020
Nolan to the area in New Mexico where

1444
00:47:14,210 --> 00:47:11,880
there's a crash site and they had these

1445
00:47:15,950 --> 00:47:14,220
special Geiger counters I got his guess

1446
00:47:18,230 --> 00:47:15,960
from NASA or whatever and it was

1447
00:47:19,849 --> 00:47:18,240
actually my friend that took time uh Tim

1448
00:47:22,069 --> 00:47:19,859
Taylor there and showed him where the

1449
00:47:23,930 --> 00:47:22,079
crash site was and so he blindfolds them

1450
00:47:26,270 --> 00:47:23,940
and takes him there and she said when we

1451
00:47:28,790 --> 00:47:26,280
got there she said

1452
00:47:30,770 --> 00:47:28,800
he he started to pray

1453
00:47:32,510 --> 00:47:30,780
before we went on the site he started to

1454
00:47:34,130 --> 00:47:32,520
pray and he called it the gifting field

1455
00:47:37,370 --> 00:47:34,140
and

1456
00:47:39,170 --> 00:47:37,380
um then uh Bob Bigelow talks about this

1457
00:47:40,910 --> 00:47:39,180
he said there was a crash yeah there was

1458
00:47:42,950 --> 00:47:40,920
a crash in Roswell but I also think

1459
00:47:44,690 --> 00:47:42,960
there was a crash in in Russia I think

1460
00:47:46,490 --> 00:47:44,700
there was a crash in China I think there

1461
00:47:48,050 --> 00:47:46,500
was a crash in South America I think

1462
00:47:50,870 --> 00:47:48,060
they're seeding them around the world

1463
00:47:52,910 --> 00:47:50,880
and then uh the last one was I was

1464
00:47:54,230 --> 00:47:52,920
talking to Jacques valet because Jacques

1465
00:47:55,670 --> 00:47:54,240
Valley is on this thing about the pieces

1466
00:47:56,809 --> 00:47:55,680
and I said Jack this doesn't make any

1467
00:47:58,309 --> 00:47:56,819
sense I mean you got these pieces

1468
00:47:59,870 --> 00:47:58,319
they're falling off these crops doesn't

1469
00:48:01,790 --> 00:47:59,880
you come across the Galaxy and then

1470
00:48:03,290 --> 00:48:01,800
these pieces falling off the craft I

1471
00:48:04,430 --> 00:48:03,300
said it looks it looks more like they're

1472
00:48:06,770 --> 00:48:04,440
dropping them that they're they're

1473
00:48:08,030 --> 00:48:06,780
gifting them to us and he said oh he

1474
00:48:10,370 --> 00:48:08,040
says I think I was the one that came up

1475
00:48:13,010 --> 00:48:10,380
with that idea so Jacques valet a

1476
00:48:14,390 --> 00:48:13,020
Bigelow and Tyler D from Nassau all say

1477
00:48:16,550 --> 00:48:14,400
it's gifting they're dropping this stuff

1478
00:48:18,829 --> 00:48:16,560
they're they're giving us this stuff on

1479
00:48:20,930 --> 00:48:18,839
purpose to to move us along that it's

1480
00:48:23,030 --> 00:48:20,940
they call this thing in in New Mexico

1481
00:48:24,650 --> 00:48:23,040
the gifting field and she said when they

1482
00:48:26,089 --> 00:48:24,660
go there they build an altar and she

1483
00:48:27,650 --> 00:48:26,099
said there's all these altars all over

1484
00:48:29,150 --> 00:48:27,660
the place all these people when you come

1485
00:48:30,890 --> 00:48:29,160
on you've got to pray and then you go to

1486
00:48:32,510 --> 00:48:30,900
build this gifting field and that's when

1487
00:48:33,829 --> 00:48:32,520
you see start getting it weird you start

1488
00:48:35,030 --> 00:48:33,839
seeing these spiritual implications

1489
00:48:37,069 --> 00:48:35,040
which a lot of people don't want to put

1490
00:48:38,870 --> 00:48:37,079
in there and but it is called the

1491
00:48:40,730 --> 00:48:38,880
gifting field and a lot of top people

1492
00:48:42,349 --> 00:48:40,740
believe they are actually gifting this

1493
00:48:44,690 --> 00:48:42,359
stuff to us they're actually crashing on

1494
00:48:45,950 --> 00:48:44,700
purpose or especially the material the

1495
00:48:47,930 --> 00:48:45,960
material they're dropping of the sky

1496
00:48:49,910 --> 00:48:47,940
that's absolutely that was the first

1497
00:48:51,589 --> 00:48:49,920
case ever that was three days before

1498
00:48:53,329 --> 00:48:51,599
Kenneth Arnold everybody leaves that out

1499
00:48:54,710 --> 00:48:53,339
except it was the first UFOs Canada I

1500
00:48:56,990 --> 00:48:54,720
don't know it wasn't it was Maury Island

1501
00:48:58,250 --> 00:48:57,000
where they the UFO the crashed and it

1502
00:48:59,870 --> 00:48:58,260
was always the same thing it's like the

1503
00:49:01,730 --> 00:48:59,880
craft is there and there's three crafts

1504
00:49:02,690 --> 00:49:01,740
and the one's wobbling and it's not a

1505
00:49:04,250 --> 00:49:02,700
crash and everybody's going oh the crew

1506
00:49:06,230 --> 00:49:04,260
UFOs are going to crash and these and

1507
00:49:07,790 --> 00:49:06,240
then they the the two UFOs go beside it

1508
00:49:09,890 --> 00:49:07,800
and then the thing drops this this metal

1509
00:49:11,750 --> 00:49:09,900
out and then the cross all take off they

1510
00:49:13,069 --> 00:49:11,760
always do the broken wing they want you

1511
00:49:14,809 --> 00:49:13,079
to see it the craft is going to crash

1512
00:49:16,370 --> 00:49:14,819
and it's flubbing around and then it

1513
00:49:19,190 --> 00:49:16,380
drops the metal and then the people

1514
00:49:21,530 --> 00:49:19,200
people pick up this metal and uh that's

1515
00:49:23,329 --> 00:49:21,540
that's all like like stage show that

1516
00:49:25,130 --> 00:49:23,339
they they want to make a big display of

1517
00:49:26,510 --> 00:49:25,140
it so the first UFO sighting was

1518
00:49:28,670 --> 00:49:26,520
actually they dropped all this stuff

1519
00:49:30,950 --> 00:49:28,680
that this craft exploded and all this

1520
00:49:32,390 --> 00:49:30,960
materials raining down it kills this dog

1521
00:49:33,950 --> 00:49:32,400
and breaks this guy's arm and stuff

1522
00:49:35,690 --> 00:49:33,960
that's how the UFO thing started with

1523
00:49:37,130 --> 00:49:35,700
material and that's what I I think

1524
00:49:40,670 --> 00:49:37,140
they're doing they're doing this weird

1525
00:49:42,230 --> 00:49:40,680
sort of uh breadcrumb thing I I say it's

1526
00:49:43,370 --> 00:49:42,240
like the grade one says you know they

1527
00:49:45,230 --> 00:49:43,380
say how are we going to get to the the

1528
00:49:47,150 --> 00:49:45,240
idea to these people on this other

1529
00:49:48,770 --> 00:49:47,160
planet and the grade ones say hey let's

1530
00:49:50,750 --> 00:49:48,780
have some crafts and let's fly around

1531
00:49:51,710 --> 00:49:50,760
with lights on and so why do UFOs have

1532
00:49:53,210 --> 00:49:51,720
lights on them because the grade one

1533
00:49:54,770 --> 00:49:53,220
class wanted lights they wanted you to

1534
00:49:56,990 --> 00:49:54,780
see them that's why UFOs have lights on

1535
00:49:58,730 --> 00:49:57,000
they don't need lights that's not

1536
00:50:01,069 --> 00:49:58,740
navigation they have no navigation

1537
00:50:02,690 --> 00:50:01,079
lights and and and the grade two class

1538
00:50:04,730 --> 00:50:02,700
might do Cattlemen relations the grade

1539
00:50:06,109 --> 00:50:04,740
three ones might do orbs and they're all

1540
00:50:08,390 --> 00:50:06,119
doing these different things and that's

1541
00:50:10,250 --> 00:50:08,400
they're dropping from 80 000 feet or my

1542
00:50:12,349 --> 00:50:10,260
first sighting the one that I think they

1543
00:50:14,089 --> 00:50:12,359
dragged me out on I would not have been

1544
00:50:15,470 --> 00:50:14,099
in UFOs if this sighting had not taken

1545
00:50:17,210 --> 00:50:15,480
place they had it on the ground

1546
00:50:18,710 --> 00:50:17,220
surrounded on the ground a bunch of

1547
00:50:20,089 --> 00:50:18,720
people there was nine people involved

1548
00:50:21,770 --> 00:50:20,099
the thing jumped up in the air they

1549
00:50:23,210 --> 00:50:21,780
thought it had disappeared and the guy

1550
00:50:24,710 --> 00:50:23,220
at the end of the road eight and a

1551
00:50:25,970 --> 00:50:24,720
quarter miles away is filming and he

1552
00:50:27,829 --> 00:50:25,980
said the next thing this thing this

1553
00:50:29,990 --> 00:50:27,839
thing comes up I'm gonna I'm gonna push

1554
00:50:31,430 --> 00:50:30,000
the trigger and and as it started to

1555
00:50:32,569 --> 00:50:31,440
flare up you pushed the trigger the

1556
00:50:34,250 --> 00:50:32,579
thing jumped up in the air almost like

1557
00:50:36,109 --> 00:50:34,260
it was timed you're ready to shoot get

1558
00:50:38,270 --> 00:50:36,119
ready I'm gonna jump and it jumps from

1559
00:50:40,370 --> 00:50:38,280
ground level to eight five thousand feet

1560
00:50:43,069 --> 00:50:40,380
in one eighth of a second and that's on

1561
00:50:44,150 --> 00:50:43,079
film and and so why did they do that why

1562
00:50:46,550 --> 00:50:44,160
did they do that whole thing because

1563
00:50:47,690 --> 00:50:46,560
they wanted me out there and I spent the

1564
00:50:49,490 --> 00:50:47,700
rest of my life chasing this thing

1565
00:50:50,750 --> 00:50:49,500
because they got that film that meant

1566
00:50:52,490 --> 00:50:50,760
that film I never would have gone I had

1567
00:50:53,510 --> 00:50:52,500
no interest in UFOs and that's what I

1568
00:50:54,890 --> 00:50:53,520
think they're doing they're doing these

1569
00:50:55,910 --> 00:50:54,900
really weird things and if it's not

1570
00:50:58,130 --> 00:50:55,920
weird they're not going to pay attention

1571
00:51:00,109 --> 00:50:58,140
to it so it's like really really strange

1572
00:51:02,030 --> 00:51:00,119
and to get your attention and everybody

1573
00:51:03,170 --> 00:51:02,040
that you have a sighting you can ask

1574
00:51:04,670 --> 00:51:03,180
them women's deciding and they'll tell

1575
00:51:05,930 --> 00:51:04,680
you exactly what day it was like it

1576
00:51:07,609 --> 00:51:05,940
happened yesterday they know all the

1577
00:51:09,170 --> 00:51:07,619
details because it's embedded in their

1578
00:51:11,150 --> 00:51:09,180
mind and that's all I think they're

1579
00:51:13,190 --> 00:51:11,160
doing they're raising conscious to

1580
00:51:15,290 --> 00:51:13,200
realize you are not alone it is not a

1581
00:51:17,089 --> 00:51:15,300
material the universe it is much grander

1582
00:51:19,370 --> 00:51:17,099
much more magnificent than you think it

1583
00:51:20,870 --> 00:51:19,380
is and pay attention and they just keep

1584
00:51:22,849 --> 00:51:20,880
doing these weird things to show you

1585
00:51:25,190 --> 00:51:22,859
that that it's not the world you think

1586
00:51:26,390 --> 00:51:25,200
it is because we're stuck in 1492 we

1587
00:51:27,410 --> 00:51:26,400
still think the world is flat the Sun

1588
00:51:29,210 --> 00:51:27,420
goes around the Earth We're the center

1589
00:51:30,710 --> 00:51:29,220
of the universe and everything is solid

1590
00:51:32,569 --> 00:51:30,720
there's only one Galaxy people don't

1591
00:51:35,630 --> 00:51:32,579
realize that there's only a hundred

1592
00:51:37,609 --> 00:51:35,640
years ago even not even 100 years that

1593
00:51:38,809 --> 00:51:37,619
people believed Einstein all these

1594
00:51:41,210 --> 00:51:38,819
people believe there's only one Galaxy

1595
00:51:42,530 --> 00:51:41,220
that I mean you've got to realize how

1596
00:51:44,990 --> 00:51:42,540
far we've come and that's what's

1597
00:51:46,609 --> 00:51:45,000
happening is this gradual unfolding as

1598
00:51:48,290 --> 00:51:46,619
we learn and we start to learn and we're

1599
00:51:49,910 --> 00:51:48,300
starting to learn the Paranormal aspects

1600
00:51:51,589 --> 00:51:49,920
of the universe that there's multiple

1601
00:51:53,510 --> 00:51:51,599
Dimensions there's multiple vibrations

1602
00:51:55,190 --> 00:51:53,520
it's all made out of Consciousness this

1603
00:51:57,410 --> 00:51:55,200
is the kind of stuff that it was going

1604
00:51:59,450 --> 00:51:57,420
to take a long time to shift almost like

1605
00:52:01,430 --> 00:51:59,460
Max Planck says we do not convince you

1606
00:52:03,829 --> 00:52:01,440
do not you do not win by convincing your

1607
00:52:06,170 --> 00:52:03,839
opponent that you're right it's a matter

1608
00:52:07,670 --> 00:52:06,180
of funerals and a new generation that

1609
00:52:10,250 --> 00:52:07,680
comes along is not offended with the

1610
00:52:12,589 --> 00:52:10,260
idea this whole idea that it we're we're

1611
00:52:14,089 --> 00:52:12,599
just stuck in our ideas and that when

1612
00:52:15,470 --> 00:52:14,099
we're gone then the young kids will say

1613
00:52:17,569 --> 00:52:15,480
yeah there's multiple Dimensions there's

1614
00:52:19,250 --> 00:52:17,579
aliens come on no they're not going to

1615
00:52:21,290 --> 00:52:19,260
have any problem with this test but the

1616
00:52:22,790 --> 00:52:21,300
the skeptical older generation you're

1617
00:52:24,950 --> 00:52:22,800
never going to convince them Stanton

1618
00:52:26,870 --> 00:52:24,960
Freeman spent 61 years arguing with

1619
00:52:29,150 --> 00:52:26,880
every major skeptic in the world at

1620
00:52:31,250 --> 00:52:29,160
Oxford and all over the place and he

1621
00:52:32,990 --> 00:52:31,260
never convinced a single major skeptic

1622
00:52:35,870 --> 00:52:33,000
of anything people are embedded in their

1623
00:52:37,490 --> 00:52:35,880
ideas and uh so this is how they're

1624
00:52:39,770 --> 00:52:37,500
teaching us they're teaching Us by

1625
00:52:41,390 --> 00:52:39,780
making us think about it by us coming to

1626
00:52:42,530 --> 00:52:41,400
the conclusion rather than landing on

1627
00:52:43,730 --> 00:52:42,540
the White House lawn and doing our

1628
00:52:45,710 --> 00:52:43,740
homework for us

1629
00:52:47,510 --> 00:52:45,720
you answer the question from Luigi

1630
00:52:50,150 --> 00:52:47,520
within that as well so thank you grant

1631
00:52:53,210 --> 00:52:50,160
so next up a question from Paul do you

1632
00:52:55,730 --> 00:52:53,220
know of anyone who has or tried to gain

1633
00:52:58,370 --> 00:52:55,740
photographic or video evidence showing

1634
00:53:00,230 --> 00:52:58,380
themselves piloting these craft

1635
00:53:01,370 --> 00:53:00,240
well no because this is very this is

1636
00:53:03,049 --> 00:53:01,380
very new you gotta remember these are

1637
00:53:04,250 --> 00:53:03,059
the first 36 to come forward there may

1638
00:53:05,990 --> 00:53:04,260
be other people who will come forward

1639
00:53:07,190 --> 00:53:06,000
there are a lot of people who claim that

1640
00:53:10,670 --> 00:53:07,200
they've got

1641
00:53:13,069 --> 00:53:10,680
um uh you know you uh

1642
00:53:14,510 --> 00:53:13,079
photographs from inside the craft and

1643
00:53:16,309 --> 00:53:14,520
stuff like that none of that stuff ever

1644
00:53:18,170 --> 00:53:16,319
pans out even back in the 50s they were

1645
00:53:20,390 --> 00:53:18,180
claiming they they had cry you know

1646
00:53:22,430 --> 00:53:20,400
photographs from inside the Craft

1647
00:53:24,349 --> 00:53:22,440
um Chris Bledsoe the closest thing I can

1648
00:53:25,609 --> 00:53:24,359
think and start a photograph it's just a

1649
00:53:27,829 --> 00:53:25,619
drawing where yeah I've got it in the

1650
00:53:29,990 --> 00:53:27,839
book where Chris draws the panel and has

1651
00:53:32,750 --> 00:53:30,000
these a lot of people describe the it

1652
00:53:36,470 --> 00:53:32,760
has lights on the panel and symbols and

1653
00:53:38,870 --> 00:53:36,480
so Chris uh is a an artist and he uh

1654
00:53:41,210 --> 00:53:38,880
draws the panel this sort of curved

1655
00:53:44,329 --> 00:53:41,220
panel around the wall that has all these

1656
00:53:45,950 --> 00:53:44,339
uh these symbols on them that you people

1657
00:53:47,569 --> 00:53:45,960
will describe the beings actually just

1658
00:53:48,829 --> 00:53:47,579
wave their hand above the they don't

1659
00:53:50,630 --> 00:53:48,839
touch the panel they just wave their

1660
00:53:52,910 --> 00:53:50,640
hand above the panel and start when

1661
00:53:54,829 --> 00:53:52,920
they're when they're flying but no we're

1662
00:53:56,450 --> 00:53:54,839
pretty early in the game here and this

1663
00:53:59,270 --> 00:53:56,460
is only the first people to come forward

1664
00:54:01,849 --> 00:53:59,280
so these are the only people and none of

1665
00:54:03,410 --> 00:54:01,859
them described they're all shocked by

1666
00:54:05,809 --> 00:54:03,420
the fact that they were flying the craft

1667
00:54:07,609 --> 00:54:05,819
there was nobody planning this thing or

1668
00:54:09,230 --> 00:54:07,619
you know nobody came over the camera

1669
00:54:11,450 --> 00:54:09,240
they were all taken out of their beds or

1670
00:54:13,190 --> 00:54:11,460
out of tents and you know did and stuff

1671
00:54:14,809 --> 00:54:13,200
like that where they were not in control

1672
00:54:16,370 --> 00:54:14,819
of the situation they were just sort of

1673
00:54:18,410 --> 00:54:16,380
Taken there and photographic stuff

1674
00:54:20,390 --> 00:54:18,420
doesn't work anyway because uh you know

1675
00:54:23,750 --> 00:54:20,400
Bigelow tried that and they they had

1676
00:54:25,430 --> 00:54:23,760
this whole idea that not only does the

1677
00:54:27,650 --> 00:54:25,440
phenomena know what what you're doing it

1678
00:54:31,010 --> 00:54:27,660
knows what you're going to do and it

1679
00:54:32,990 --> 00:54:31,020
makes cameras uh lose their batteries

1680
00:54:34,970 --> 00:54:33,000
when they want you to film they will

1681
00:54:37,370 --> 00:54:34,980
actually like the film the first one I

1682
00:54:39,109 --> 00:54:37,380
had where it definitely was set up this

1683
00:54:41,089 --> 00:54:39,119
guy wasn't even a cameraman it was like

1684
00:54:43,490 --> 00:54:41,099
it was totally set up but this thing was

1685
00:54:45,170 --> 00:54:43,500
wanted to be filmed or the the Nimitz

1686
00:54:47,569 --> 00:54:45,180
thing where they'll allow certain people

1687
00:54:50,990 --> 00:54:47,579
to film it but it's not enough evidence

1688
00:54:52,849 --> 00:54:51,000
they'll always leave like a a a room for

1689
00:54:55,549 --> 00:54:52,859
a skeptic to knock it down it's almost

1690
00:54:57,410 --> 00:54:55,559
like they sort of discount their own uh

1691
00:54:59,809 --> 00:54:57,420
UFO photographs when when they allow

1692
00:55:03,410 --> 00:54:59,819
themselves to be photographed and yet

1693
00:55:07,130 --> 00:55:03,420
we're getting more and more uh

1694
00:55:08,870 --> 00:55:07,140
photographic evidence and uh I in the

1695
00:55:11,329 --> 00:55:08,880
end I may not prove anything anyway the

1696
00:55:12,950 --> 00:55:11,339
US government does have very confirming

1697
00:55:15,290 --> 00:55:12,960
UFO evidence that apparently they have

1698
00:55:17,390 --> 00:55:15,300
some where you can actually see the

1699
00:55:18,829 --> 00:55:17,400
beings in the craft so we'll have to go

1700
00:55:20,990 --> 00:55:18,839
there but this is you early on these

1701
00:55:22,670 --> 00:55:21,000
people had no intention to fly the craft

1702
00:55:25,370 --> 00:55:22,680
they were suddenly taken out and they

1703
00:55:27,890 --> 00:55:25,380
only happened once the the guy the 747

1704
00:55:29,990 --> 00:55:27,900
guy had it to happen twice other than

1705
00:55:31,250 --> 00:55:30,000
that this is an off the beat thing where

1706
00:55:32,809 --> 00:55:31,260
they suddenly they were there and they

1707
00:55:34,370 --> 00:55:32,819
were flying to craft and they were just

1708
00:55:36,349 --> 00:55:34,380
shocked by this thing so they weren't

1709
00:55:39,109 --> 00:55:36,359
prepared and did Never Their cameras

1710
00:55:41,210 --> 00:55:39,119
question from Newman is Grant aware

1711
00:55:43,250 --> 00:55:41,220
whether the U.S military has been trying

1712
00:55:45,410 --> 00:55:43,260
to instrumentalize the remote side

1713
00:55:48,290 --> 00:55:45,420
effect of prescience or increased

1714
00:55:50,630 --> 00:55:48,300
situational awareness or foresight of

1715
00:55:54,650 --> 00:55:50,640
future events which subjects are rumored

1716
00:55:56,390 --> 00:55:54,660
to experience after having piloted uaps

1717
00:55:58,970 --> 00:55:56,400
oh government's been in that forever

1718
00:56:01,130 --> 00:55:58,980
that was I believe why I mentioned when

1719
00:56:03,829 --> 00:56:01,140
I had my download in 2012 one of the

1720
00:56:06,589 --> 00:56:03,839
things that was shown to me was the top

1721
00:56:09,829 --> 00:56:06,599
secret Canadian government document 1950

1722
00:56:11,390 --> 00:56:09,839
November that said the Americans told us

1723
00:56:13,490 --> 00:56:11,400
that other things might be associated

1724
00:56:15,829 --> 00:56:13,500
with philosophy flying sauces such as

1725
00:56:17,089 --> 00:56:15,839
mental phenomena and they aren't doing

1726
00:56:18,470 --> 00:56:17,099
very well because they said if the

1727
00:56:20,510 --> 00:56:18,480
Canadians are working on this problem

1728
00:56:23,270 --> 00:56:20,520
they're willing to exchange credentials

1729
00:56:25,670 --> 00:56:23,280
and talk to us so in 1950 the Americans

1730
00:56:27,910 --> 00:56:25,680
knew that mental phenomena was involved

1731
00:56:29,809 --> 00:56:27,920
with UFOs how would they know that

1732
00:56:31,309 --> 00:56:29,819
adamski didn't appear until two years

1733
00:56:34,069 --> 00:56:31,319
later and then he started talking about

1734
00:56:35,690 --> 00:56:34,079
telepathic contact how did they know and

1735
00:56:37,190 --> 00:56:35,700
maybe because they had a live alien in

1736
00:56:38,990 --> 00:56:37,200
Roswell and they realized this thing was

1737
00:56:40,250 --> 00:56:39,000
alive and it was talking in their heads

1738
00:56:42,109 --> 00:56:40,260
so the government has been worried

1739
00:56:44,030 --> 00:56:42,119
that's why I say they worked on MK Ultra

1740
00:56:46,730 --> 00:56:44,040
they didn't work on mkl drive maybe a

1741
00:56:50,089 --> 00:56:46,740
little bit to for uh you know mind

1742
00:56:51,530 --> 00:56:50,099
control over you know enemy uh people

1743
00:56:52,910 --> 00:56:51,540
when you capture them and stuff like

1744
00:56:54,290 --> 00:56:52,920
that but they were trying to figure out

1745
00:56:55,849 --> 00:56:54,300
Consciousness they realized that

1746
00:56:57,170 --> 00:56:55,859
consciousness this was this key thing

1747
00:56:58,190 --> 00:56:57,180
that they had to figure out that's why

1748
00:56:59,750 --> 00:56:58,200
they were doing all these bizarre

1749
00:57:01,130 --> 00:56:59,760
experiments so yeah the government is

1750
00:57:03,710 --> 00:57:01,140
trying to do this and they they've

1751
00:57:06,530 --> 00:57:03,720
actually worked uh one of this the tapes

1752
00:57:08,390 --> 00:57:06,540
I have actually released was the the kit

1753
00:57:10,849 --> 00:57:08,400
the tape was kit green and I'm about to

1754
00:57:13,730 --> 00:57:10,859
release another video by this woman her

1755
00:57:15,650 --> 00:57:13,740
name is k Randall May uh kit Green from

1756
00:57:17,569 --> 00:57:15,660
the CIA who was the control officer for

1757
00:57:19,010 --> 00:57:17,579
the remote viewing program said that

1758
00:57:23,270 --> 00:57:19,020
this woman when it comes to medical

1759
00:57:26,150 --> 00:57:23,280
stuff is 95 to 100 accurate she did a

1760
00:57:28,069 --> 00:57:26,160
reading for me in April of this year

1761
00:57:29,329 --> 00:57:28,079
it's about to be released within the

1762
00:57:32,210 --> 00:57:29,339
next couple of days I'm going to explain

1763
00:57:34,670 --> 00:57:32,220
in the first uh audio uh podcast what

1764
00:57:36,410 --> 00:57:34,680
what happened and then she's I'd be on

1765
00:57:38,390 --> 00:57:36,420
YouTube and then I'm going to actually

1766
00:57:41,690 --> 00:57:38,400
play the actual

1767
00:57:44,030 --> 00:57:41,700
um video of her doing this reading now

1768
00:57:46,849 --> 00:57:44,040
she has been you she's also a scientific

1769
00:57:48,349 --> 00:57:46,859
intuitive so she was used by kit green

1770
00:57:49,670 --> 00:57:48,359
if you've heard this experiment kid

1771
00:57:51,710 --> 00:57:49,680
green is doing this experiment with

1772
00:57:54,410 --> 00:57:51,720
Nolan with experiencers and they're

1773
00:57:55,910 --> 00:57:54,420
doing the MRI and the the DNA and all

1774
00:57:58,490 --> 00:57:55,920
this sort of stuff and they're grabbing

1775
00:58:00,349 --> 00:57:58,500
they're trying to see if if DNA is being

1776
00:58:01,670 --> 00:58:00,359
programmed or changed they're uh you

1777
00:58:02,809 --> 00:58:01,680
know this thing in the brain that's the

1778
00:58:05,569 --> 00:58:02,819
psychic thing they're doing all this

1779
00:58:07,849 --> 00:58:05,579
sort of stuff and they were using her

1780
00:58:09,530 --> 00:58:07,859
they hired her they're using it and I

1781
00:58:10,970 --> 00:58:09,540
got one of the readings that she did for

1782
00:58:12,290 --> 00:58:10,980
Kate green and she's talking about

1783
00:58:13,790 --> 00:58:12,300
they're saying who are we dealing with

1784
00:58:15,470 --> 00:58:13,800
and she said oh there's a portal off the

1785
00:58:17,089 --> 00:58:15,480
coast to California and we're in this

1786
00:58:18,410 --> 00:58:17,099
fourth dimensional being or whatever it

1787
00:58:19,790 --> 00:58:18,420
was she's talking about and she's

1788
00:58:21,710 --> 00:58:19,800
talking about all this this stuff and

1789
00:58:23,089 --> 00:58:21,720
kit Green's going hang on hang on let me

1790
00:58:25,549 --> 00:58:23,099
write that down it's right it's like

1791
00:58:27,589 --> 00:58:25,559
taking a deadly serious so yeah the

1792
00:58:29,569 --> 00:58:27,599
government is absolutely if if somebody

1793
00:58:33,109 --> 00:58:29,579
is claiming that they can there was one

1794
00:58:35,210 --> 00:58:33,119
guy who that saw 911 and I had five

1795
00:58:37,010 --> 00:58:35,220
people six people experiences who saw

1796
00:58:38,089 --> 00:58:37,020
911 before it happened there was a lot

1797
00:58:40,190 --> 00:58:38,099
of people it was actually a book written

1798
00:58:41,390 --> 00:58:40,200
on it people who saw 911 before it

1799
00:58:43,250 --> 00:58:41,400
happened because it was this I guess

1800
00:58:46,130 --> 00:58:43,260
traumatic vibration and the frequency

1801
00:58:49,789 --> 00:58:46,140
and people were picking it up and um so

1802
00:58:51,530 --> 00:58:49,799
this guy was picked up by NSA and uh I

1803
00:58:54,410 --> 00:58:51,540
think he's actually from England and he

1804
00:58:56,270 --> 00:58:54,420
they brought him in because he saw the

1805
00:58:58,250 --> 00:58:56,280
911 thing so yeah they're always working

1806
00:59:01,069 --> 00:58:58,260
on this kind of stuff anything anything

1807
00:59:03,530 --> 00:59:01,079
is is fair game for the CEO I'm not sure

1808
00:59:05,390 --> 00:59:03,540
the CIA but whoever is doing this the

1809
00:59:08,329 --> 00:59:05,400
military intelligence that's why they

1810
00:59:10,130 --> 00:59:08,339
were went to Skinwalker Ranch they did

1811
00:59:11,510 --> 00:59:10,140
not go to Skinwalker Ranch I maintained

1812
00:59:13,730 --> 00:59:11,520
for UFOs because there really was no

1813
00:59:15,410 --> 00:59:13,740
UFOs there what there was there was a

1814
00:59:17,270 --> 00:59:15,420
port material things appearing and

1815
00:59:18,890 --> 00:59:17,280
disappearing and moving and putting

1816
00:59:20,150 --> 00:59:18,900
Bulls inside trailers and that's my next

1817
00:59:21,950 --> 00:59:20,160
book coming out is a ports and

1818
00:59:23,270 --> 00:59:21,960
manifestations but that's why they went

1819
00:59:25,010 --> 00:59:23,280
there they wanted to see this all this

1820
00:59:26,450 --> 00:59:25,020
stuff how do you get four Bulls inside a

1821
00:59:27,829 --> 00:59:26,460
locked trailer and they were trying to

1822
00:59:29,569 --> 00:59:27,839
figure out how did they talk in their

1823
00:59:31,309 --> 00:59:29,579
heads because when you see this whole

1824
00:59:32,750 --> 00:59:31,319
thing where these three guys have the

1825
00:59:34,309 --> 00:59:32,760
The Hitchhiker effect where they take

1826
00:59:35,750 --> 00:59:34,319
this thing home and they're terrified

1827
00:59:37,430 --> 00:59:35,760
and they won't go back these are special

1828
00:59:38,930 --> 00:59:37,440
forces guys they were hunting the

1829
00:59:40,789 --> 00:59:38,940
skinwalker and suddenly the thing turned

1830
00:59:42,950 --> 00:59:40,799
around was hunting them and inside their

1831
00:59:45,650 --> 00:59:42,960
head they heard a voice that said leave

1832
00:59:47,750 --> 00:59:45,660
you are not welcome and they were

1833
00:59:49,849 --> 00:59:47,760
terrified and they they went in this

1834
00:59:50,990 --> 00:59:49,859
this you know these orbs started to

1835
00:59:53,089 --> 00:59:51,000
follow them home and stuff like that

1836
00:59:54,650 --> 00:59:53,099
that's the kind of stuff that the that's

1837
00:59:56,930 --> 00:59:54,660
why they went there they wanted to see

1838
00:59:58,490 --> 00:59:56,940
how does this work can we do this man if

1839
00:59:59,450 --> 00:59:58,500
we could get inside Putin's head and if

1840
01:00:01,910 --> 00:59:59,460
we could make things appear and

1841
01:00:03,650 --> 01:00:01,920
disappear and they actually is a 74

1842
01:00:09,170 --> 01:00:03,660
document from the defense intelligence

1843
01:00:11,329 --> 01:00:09,180
agency if we can uh um actually do this

1844
01:00:13,069 --> 01:00:11,339
um a port a thing where somebody can

1845
01:00:14,930 --> 01:00:13,079
make something appear and disappear we

1846
01:00:17,510 --> 01:00:14,940
can actually go and steal another

1847
01:00:20,930 --> 01:00:17,520
country's documents top secret documents

1848
01:00:23,270 --> 01:00:20,940
bring them back photograph them and then

1849
01:00:26,510 --> 01:00:23,280
make them reappear and nobody will even

1850
01:00:29,270 --> 01:00:26,520
know they were gone that's in a 1974 Dia

1851
01:00:31,190 --> 01:00:29,280
document there are debts anything remote

1852
01:00:32,510 --> 01:00:31,200
viewing the future all this kind of

1853
01:00:34,549 --> 01:00:32,520
stuff absolutely because it's

1854
01:00:36,470 --> 01:00:34,559
intelligent stuff that puts you ahead of

1855
01:00:37,549 --> 01:00:36,480
your enemy and and the Chinese are

1856
01:00:38,690 --> 01:00:37,559
working on it and the Russians are

1857
01:00:40,549 --> 01:00:38,700
working on everybody's working on it

1858
01:00:42,049 --> 01:00:40,559
they realize this component and that may

1859
01:00:43,730 --> 01:00:42,059
be part of the reason that they're

1860
01:00:45,230 --> 01:00:43,740
they're not releasing this stuff is

1861
01:00:47,569 --> 01:00:45,240
because there is this psychic

1862
01:00:49,069 --> 01:00:47,579
Consciousness component that they have

1863
01:00:50,630 --> 01:00:49,079
not figured out they cannot turn the

1864
01:00:52,250 --> 01:00:50,640
craft on and they are not going to

1865
01:00:55,490 --> 01:00:52,260
release that's what Eric Walker told us

1866
01:00:57,349 --> 01:00:55,500
in 19 1990 he was a main guy kit green

1867
01:00:58,789 --> 01:00:57,359
went to see this guy he got a clearance

1868
01:01:01,130 --> 01:00:58,799
to go see this guy we were dealing with

1869
01:01:03,289 --> 01:01:01,140
this guy and he said to us he said tell

1870
01:01:05,390 --> 01:01:03,299
me why you want to know you're just

1871
01:01:07,430 --> 01:01:05,400
curious admit all you want to do your

1872
01:01:09,589 --> 01:01:07,440
curious you just want to know why should

1873
01:01:11,690 --> 01:01:09,599
we change the rules to satisfy your

1874
01:01:13,549 --> 01:01:11,700
curiosity and then he said when you

1875
01:01:15,530 --> 01:01:13,559
figure it out what are you going to do

1876
01:01:16,730 --> 01:01:15,540
with it and this is the thing behind the

1877
01:01:18,770 --> 01:01:16,740
scenes they're working on it they don't

1878
01:01:20,569 --> 01:01:18,780
care they've got rules that they this is

1879
01:01:22,030 --> 01:01:20,579
classified they're going to figure this

1880
01:01:24,410 --> 01:01:22,040
thing out and they don't care if the guy

1881
01:01:25,970 --> 01:01:24,420
you and I and everybody in the world is

1882
01:01:27,349 --> 01:01:25,980
interested in what's going on they're

1883
01:01:28,370 --> 01:01:27,359
building weapons they're trying to

1884
01:01:30,230 --> 01:01:28,380
figure this thing out before the

1885
01:01:32,630 --> 01:01:30,240
Russians they see this as top secret

1886
01:01:33,770 --> 01:01:32,640
security material and they'll be damned

1887
01:01:35,510 --> 01:01:33,780
if they're going to tell anybody what's

1888
01:01:36,890 --> 01:01:35,520
going on and that's what's going on I

1889
01:01:38,270 --> 01:01:36,900
think in the background it's this

1890
01:01:40,430 --> 01:01:38,280
Consciousness thing it's not the fact

1891
01:01:42,049 --> 01:01:40,440
that UFOs exist it's this technology

1892
01:01:44,750 --> 01:01:42,059
because if you've heard what Eric Davis

1893
01:01:46,609 --> 01:01:44,760
said that in 1989 they put it on the

1894
01:01:48,049 --> 01:01:46,619
Shelf they could not figure it out it

1895
01:01:49,430 --> 01:01:48,059
put it on the shelf and every seven or

1896
01:01:50,750 --> 01:01:49,440
eight years they take it off the shelf

1897
01:01:52,370 --> 01:01:50,760
look at it and say oh we still can't

1898
01:01:54,829 --> 01:01:52,380
figure it out put it back on the shelf

1899
01:01:57,349 --> 01:01:54,839
and kit green has said that publicly

1900
01:01:59,930 --> 01:01:57,359
that we have this is the core story we

1901
01:02:02,270 --> 01:01:59,940
we are being visited by something we

1902
01:02:04,730 --> 01:02:02,280
have crash material and we we are having

1903
01:02:06,710 --> 01:02:04,740
a difficult time back engineering it and

1904
01:02:08,450 --> 01:02:06,720
having a difficult time because it has

1905
01:02:10,309 --> 01:02:08,460
this Consciousness saying it's not a

1906
01:02:11,990 --> 01:02:10,319
simple motor where you just rebuild it

1907
01:02:13,789 --> 01:02:12,000
like a like a MIG jet or something like

1908
01:02:16,490 --> 01:02:13,799
that it has this Consciousness thing and

1909
01:02:18,230 --> 01:02:16,500
you need the person to make it work

1910
01:02:19,849 --> 01:02:18,240
I'd just like to thank everyone who sent

1911
01:02:22,010 --> 01:02:19,859
and listen our questions and to those

1912
01:02:24,349 --> 01:02:22,020
whose questions I didn't get to Grant

1913
01:02:27,650 --> 01:02:24,359
just before you go I'd love to get your

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01:02:29,569 --> 01:02:27,660
thoughts finally on the unclassified UFO

1915
01:02:31,849 --> 01:02:29,579
report that was due to be released to

1916
01:02:34,130 --> 01:02:31,859
Congress by the 31st of October which

1917
01:02:36,770 --> 01:02:34,140
still hasn't been submitted as of the

1918
01:02:38,750 --> 01:02:36,780
18th of November as we record this what

1919
01:02:40,670 --> 01:02:38,760
are your thoughts on the delay and any

1920
01:02:42,890 --> 01:02:40,680
expectations for when it finally does

1921
01:02:44,630 --> 01:02:42,900
get released well this is what I've just

1922
01:02:45,829 --> 01:02:44,640
talked about there's nothing going to

1923
01:02:47,750 --> 01:02:45,839
happen they're going to they're going to

1924
01:02:49,970 --> 01:02:47,760
release because the leak came out it was

1925
01:02:52,309 --> 01:02:49,980
at 360 cases half of them are

1926
01:02:54,950 --> 01:02:52,319
unidentified uh what other cases

1927
01:02:56,569 --> 01:02:54,960
classified can't tell you uh what's the

1928
01:02:58,789 --> 01:02:56,579
shape can't tell you it's all going to

1929
01:03:00,770 --> 01:02:58,799
be classified so all we're doing is

1930
01:03:02,809 --> 01:03:00,780
moving it one step ahead so now Congress

1931
01:03:04,789 --> 01:03:02,819
sort of knows what's going on but the

1932
01:03:06,890 --> 01:03:04,799
public is not going to know because it's

1933
01:03:09,289 --> 01:03:06,900
the idea you just want it for curiosity

1934
01:03:10,609 --> 01:03:09,299
this is National Security material we're

1935
01:03:12,470 --> 01:03:10,619
trying to figure this thing out we're

1936
01:03:14,510 --> 01:03:12,480
not going to tell the people and so that

1937
01:03:16,069 --> 01:03:14,520
we're even worse off than blue book in

1938
01:03:17,990 --> 01:03:16,079
Blue Book at least we knew what shapes

1939
01:03:19,370 --> 01:03:18,000
were it least we had the cases we had

1940
01:03:22,130 --> 01:03:19,380
now we don't have anything all they're

1941
01:03:24,170 --> 01:03:22,140
doing is saying oh a 144 cases and one

1942
01:03:26,150 --> 01:03:24,180
we could identify sorry that's all we

1943
01:03:28,190 --> 01:03:26,160
can tell you we know nothing this is a

1944
01:03:29,870 --> 01:03:28,200
total waste of time it's it's just like

1945
01:03:31,910 --> 01:03:29,880
the same old deal and all we're doing is

1946
01:03:34,190 --> 01:03:31,920
gathering material for the black world

1947
01:03:37,309 --> 01:03:34,200
because the black world I believe had

1948
01:03:38,750 --> 01:03:37,319
this compartmentalization a stove piping

1949
01:03:39,950 --> 01:03:38,760
thing where you had a piece of The Craft

1950
01:03:41,030 --> 01:03:39,960
I had a piece of craft we were not

1951
01:03:43,549 --> 01:03:41,040
allowed to talk to each other because

1952
01:03:45,770 --> 01:03:43,559
the security thing we need some help so

1953
01:03:47,930 --> 01:03:45,780
they're getting this information and

1954
01:03:49,430 --> 01:03:47,940
money from the white world to get more

1955
01:03:50,870 --> 01:03:49,440
material because they're stuck they

1956
01:03:52,190 --> 01:03:50,880
can't figure it out and so they're going

1957
01:03:54,170 --> 01:03:52,200
to grab this and it's all going to get

1958
01:03:56,030 --> 01:03:54,180
sucked into this black hole and the

1959
01:03:58,010 --> 01:03:56,040
public is not going to know anything

1960
01:03:59,210 --> 01:03:58,020
unless it's forced out and I can't see

1961
01:04:00,710 --> 01:03:59,220
they're going to force it out because

1962
01:04:03,109 --> 01:04:00,720
they're just going to keep saying this

1963
01:04:04,789 --> 01:04:03,119
is classified if the shape of the UFO is

1964
01:04:06,049 --> 01:04:04,799
classified what else are they going to

1965
01:04:08,630 --> 01:04:06,059
release nothing absolutely nothing

1966
01:04:11,329 --> 01:04:08,640
they're not going to die out flies or uh

1967
01:04:12,650 --> 01:04:11,339
you know piloting it or remote viewing

1968
01:04:14,289 --> 01:04:12,660
or any of that kind of stuff that is

1969
01:04:16,190 --> 01:04:14,299
stuff that is highly military

1970
01:04:18,170 --> 01:04:16,200
applications that they would like to

1971
01:04:19,849 --> 01:04:18,180
learn so no I don't think anything's

1972
01:04:21,890 --> 01:04:19,859
gonna happen even the stalling there

1973
01:04:23,270 --> 01:04:21,900
there it's like a game of chicken it's

1974
01:04:26,270 --> 01:04:23,280
like force us out and now we have

1975
01:04:28,250 --> 01:04:26,280
basically a stalled uh Congress we have

1976
01:04:29,270 --> 01:04:28,260
the the house run by the Republicans and

1977
01:04:30,950 --> 01:04:29,280
all they're going to do is all these

1978
01:04:32,569 --> 01:04:30,960
investigations on Biden and all these

1979
01:04:33,890 --> 01:04:32,579
other things they're looking at they're

1980
01:04:36,530 --> 01:04:33,900
they're not going to make a single piece

1981
01:04:39,470 --> 01:04:36,540
of legislation we're in a lame duck uh

1982
01:04:42,470 --> 01:04:39,480
until January the 21st and they were in

1983
01:04:43,910 --> 01:04:42,480
lame duck because the the uh the house

1984
01:04:45,650 --> 01:04:43,920
is gonna be fighting with the Senate and

1985
01:04:47,569 --> 01:04:45,660
nothing's going to get done except it is

1986
01:04:49,250 --> 01:04:47,579
done through executive order by Biden so

1987
01:04:50,630 --> 01:04:49,260
for your next two years we're stalled

1988
01:04:52,250 --> 01:04:50,640
you can't get anything through the house

1989
01:04:55,730 --> 01:04:52,260
because it's all it's these people

1990
01:04:57,589 --> 01:04:55,740
fighting uh so we've gone past the point

1991
01:04:59,870 --> 01:04:57,599
if it had been released before the

1992
01:05:01,430 --> 01:04:59,880
election then it may have made something

1993
01:05:02,930 --> 01:05:01,440
but now it's it's a stalled thing

1994
01:05:04,549 --> 01:05:02,940
everybody's getting ready to leave

1995
01:05:06,109 --> 01:05:04,559
everybody's clearing out their desks

1996
01:05:08,150 --> 01:05:06,119
that's the last thing they're worried

1997
01:05:10,250 --> 01:05:08,160
about is this report

1998
01:05:12,170 --> 01:05:10,260
well one thing that has been released

1999
01:05:14,630 --> 01:05:12,180
and does not disappoint Grant is your

2000
01:05:17,329 --> 01:05:14,640
book UFO Sky pilots pilots of peace and

2001
01:05:18,829 --> 01:05:17,339
Oneness and anyone can pick up a copy on

2002
01:05:20,210 --> 01:05:18,839
Amazon or through other book

2003
01:05:22,490 --> 01:05:20,220
distributors where it may be available

2004
01:05:24,049 --> 01:05:22,500
I'll put all those links in the

2005
01:05:26,210 --> 01:05:24,059
description of the show and they can

2006
01:05:28,250 --> 01:05:26,220
pack that up and Grant next time when

2007
01:05:30,230 --> 01:05:28,260
your next book is available uh you said

2008
01:05:33,230 --> 01:05:30,240
you've got a few coming out on a ports

2009
01:05:36,049 --> 01:05:33,240
and operations yep reports and

2010
01:05:38,150 --> 01:05:36,059
manifestations I'm doing a book on evil

2011
01:05:39,589 --> 01:05:38,160
aliens the big controversy are they good

2012
01:05:41,390 --> 01:05:39,599
or are they bad I'm gonna do a book on

2013
01:05:43,430 --> 01:05:41,400
that but I look forward to speaking to

2014
01:05:44,870 --> 01:05:43,440
you about those ads yeah you're always

2015
01:05:47,569 --> 01:05:44,880
welcome on and it's always a pleasure to

2016
01:05:49,430 --> 01:05:47,579
speak to you thank you sir that is all

2017
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for this week's show thank you very much

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01:06:18,109 --> 01:06:14,579
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2030
01:06:25,309 --> 01:06:19,980
keep looking up you never know what you

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01:06:25,319 --> 01:06:48,830
me

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[Music]

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01:06:59,210 --> 01:06:57,359
to the game

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01:07:01,010 --> 01:06:59,220
it didn't matter I can't imagine how I

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01:07:22,510 --> 01:07:01,020
could have been any better I got to the

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01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:28,809
they thought this was Some Noise

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01:07:28,819 --> 01:07:38,829
because it doesn't really scare me

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01:07:38,839 --> 01:07:47,250
if you really want to know

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01:08:01,150 --> 01:07:52,380
[Music]

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01:08:06,300 --> 01:08:03,650
consider your space consider your lies

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01:08:15,170 --> 01:08:06,310
consider your life

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01:08:15,180 --> 01:08:19,150
attack and not quite a saucer

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01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:26,900
what's that is saucer

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[Music]